Why I truly come in!

by justmom 160 Replies latest jw friends

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    I'm just making the point about the human imagination being all that is required for religion and that the existence of faith has nothing to do with the reality or existance of the God that the faith is placed in.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Good point . . . possibly too easily overlooked.

  • still thinking
    still thinking
    I'm just making the point about the human imagination being all that is required for religion and that the existence of faith has nothing to do with the reality or existance of the God that the faith is placed in.

    You may be right!....but then one or some of these gods might be real....

    How about Isis? In ancient egyptian religious belief she is worshiped as the ideal wife and mother, and is the patron of Nature and magic.

    A friend of slaves and sinners, and the downtrodden, but she also listened to the prayers of the wealthy, maidens and rulers. Something for everyone here....

    She was the daughter of Geb (I think he resides in Christchurch NZ because Gebs laughter are earthquakes), Geb is also associated with the underworld. Nut, her mother the sky goddess is considered an enigma in the world of mythology which usually depicts Earth mother and sky father. But she is one of the oldest deities among the Egyptian pantheon with her origin being found in the creation story of Heliopolis.

    (Isis Mummy and Daddy )Sky goddess Nut and Geb with the head of a snake

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    Isis nursing Horus

    The worship of Isis eventually spread throughout the Greco-Roman world, continuing until the suppression of paganism in the Christian era. The popular motif of Isis suckling her son Horus, however, lived on in a Christianized context as the popular image of Mary suckling the infant son Jesus from the fifth century onward.

    Hmmmmmmm....I see the connection....must be true...since all belief has un underlying truth.... A bit odd they got the male female roles the opposite way round though....

  • elderelite
    elderelite

    Well this thread just took a sharp turn toward towards stupidville.

    Questioning Thor's exsistance...? Really people....?

    There is thunder. There is lighting. There is Thor the Thunderer.

    Ill leave it to the christians to prove the desert god and his son are real

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    I know EE if only it was a level playing field of logic some the other gods could still play as well.

  • watersprout
    watersprout

    Can I ask why what sort of proof do you what that God and His Son exist?

    It just seems to me that you are all so bothered about whether God exist's and getting all thiests to believe in what you do. I am a big believer in evolution and I wish I could understand science more, but alas I float about far to much to understand anything deep ;P

    Why can't everyone believe what they want and be left alone. I agree debate is good but all the sqwaking is just not good for the soul.

    Peace

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    Direct and incontrovertible proof will cut it for me. Provided i'm passed as sane and rational by experts and not under the influence of drugs then I'd say that would do it. Witnesses to the event would be a huge bonus for credibility sake as personally I wouldnt trust myself, after all it could just have been a very vivid dream instead eh.... such is the POWER of the human mind.

    I am NOT going to take 3rd 4th 5th or 1000th hand embellished accounts of the divine and supernatural as evidence ever again! Why should I? Why should you? Something as important ought to be based on some real concrete evidence surely, not on fairytales and myth.

    This needs it's own thread as we may well be off topic by now.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    Why can't everyone believe what they want and be left alone. I agree debate is good but all the sqwaking is just not good for the soul.

    I asked a few questions to figure out how to figure out if Jesus is real and you, a supposedly loving Christian, attacked me for my efforts. How un Christ-like.

  • elderelite
    elderelite

    Sprout... I will accept as follows:

    Proof - The evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true.

    For example, i accept Thor because i see lightning and hearthunder. Offer something similar for christ and ill accept him too

  • watersprout
    watersprout
    I asked a few questions to figure out how to figure out if Jesus is real and you, a supposedly loving Christian, attacked me for my efforts.

    Given your history asking thiests questions, no wonder no one answered you. When given answers you just rip the poster apart. Shelby, Tammy and Sab have been on the receiving end of you and to be honest it's not like you will actually listen. You just like to chew up and spit out.

    How un Christ-like.

    Yes because you have a personal relationship with Him don't you? Whatever!

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