Okay, by Jody Blonde, I'll post it all over again since the system won't let me edit my mistakes. I hate errors that aren't allowed to be fixed, Simon! ________________________________
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They are certainly no part of at least 5 of the heads.
I think that when a person considers verses 10 and 12 together it becomes quite clear that the 10 horns are completely irrelevant to the first 6 heads. It really amazes me that people can't grasp this point.
Notice that verse 10 speaks of the 7th head/king as not having arrived yet, as of John's day (the first century).
Then, even as you've already called attention to, verse 12 speaks of ALL 10 horns as having not yet received a kingdom, as of John's day also.
With both texts in view it's seems so very obvious that the 10 horns fit into the same time frame as does the 7th head.
Whatever. Friday, you oghta start your own religion. It appears the wt also lost it. You may be the only one w the truth. Maybe you are the faithful and discreet one. It takes a lot of stubborness to start a religion, but the pay is real good. lol
I'm not sure exactly what your point is. Both Christendom and the Watchtower are wrong, indeed pretty far off from your interpretation of the scripture and the representation.
If both are wrong seems to me neither have "the truth".
If both are wrong seems to me neither have "the truth".
For a fact, both Christendom as well as the Society ARE mistaken in their views regarding exactly where the 10 horns are perched on the wild beast. The difference however is that there exists hope/promise for the one (the WTS) but not the other, insofar as coming around to accurately understanding all about what the scarlet beast truly represents as well as the correct placement of the horns.
Regarding your reference to this thing called “the truth”, I’ve tried to point out before that such a thing doesn’t require a 100% accurate understanding of the Bible.
Nope, I'm definitely not of the anointed (144,000) ... cause, unlike them, I have a long way to go in order to qualify for everlasting life ... something THEY lay hands on during this life.
Jesus said if someone eats his body, drinks his blood, he has life. He said to be able to SEE the kingdom one MUST be born again. Don't worry about people trying to keep you out of the kingdom with numbers, intimidation or guilt. Where is your faith in jesus??
The Scriptures also indicate that those who qualify to be of the anointed are "holy". That's something that surely few people have ever attained during this life. Certainly, I'm not one who has done so yet and I'm sure that I'll need the benefits of Christ's reign to qualify me for the everlasting life that those ones have ALREADY qualified for.
Of course both representations are wrong. All ten horns belong to only one of the seven heads, namely the seventh.
I do you know that?
I'm assuming that you disagree with my analysis up above, where I explained:
I think that when a person considers verses 10 and 12 together it becomes quite clear that the 10 horns are completely irrelevant to the first 6 heads. It really amazes me that people can't grasp this point.
Notice that verse 10 speaks of the 7th head/king as not having arrived yet, as of John's day (the first century).
Then, even as you've already called attention to, verse 12 speaks of ALL 10 horns as having not yet received a kingdom, as of John's day also.
With both texts in view it's seems so very obvious that the 10 horns fit into the same time frame as does the 7th head.
Perhaps you won't mind explaining what it is that you can't accept about that?
I've got to hit the sack, because I've been indisciplined again and so been up all night. I'll be interested in reading your comments when I wake up later.
Before retiring, I will say one thing more for the sake of clarification:
With both -- the 7th head as well as the 10 horns -- occupying the same time frame (as verses 10 & 12 describe) it has to be that John saw all 10 horns atop the 7th head.
