1975 ??? (page 2)

Smartgirlpw

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Edited by - Smartgirlpw on 23 January 2001 16:34:6

Smartgirlpw

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Edited by - Smartgirlpw on 23 January 2001 16:35:24

thinkers wife

Scorpion,
Did you change Awake to Afake on purpose in your post? LOL
TW

JAVA

Smartgirlpw:

So what if some of you didn't like the "rules" we had to follow. That was YOUR choice to stay or go. Frankly, I think sometimes we like to indulge in "pity parties" simply because we have lost contact with loved ones because of the path WE chose to go down.

The Tower sets itself as "God's organization." They call themselves "the faithful and discrete slave." They label JWs disagreeing with them "evil slaves," later changed to "apostate" when their 1975 expectations bombed and they needed a scapegoat for their failure.

Many sincere brothers and sisters took the Watchtower Society at its word of being the only religion on earth that Jehovah approves--all other religions are false. Any JW disagreeing with this can be disfellowshipped. So, when God's mouthpiece says: "Do not pursue higher education. There is very little time left! Make pioneer service, the full-time ministry with the possibility of Bethel or missionary service, your goal" and "A great crowd of people are confident that great destruction is imminent, which has been a major factor in their decision not to have children" they are engaging in nothing more than "pity parties."

We have childless couples, we have uneducated workers, we have elderly folks without retirement benifits--why, because they put faith in God's organization! They were really stupid for putting faith in God's organization. They were dimwits for selling property to support themselves pioneering while the Society was buying property. Yeah, these faithful Witnesses are nothering more than cry babies engaging in "pity parties."

I think the organization should disfellowship anyone who believed and acted on the suggestions coming from the Society in the 1960s and early 1970s. They have a bad attitude that continues to embarrass God's only organization.

JAVA, counting time at the Coffee Shop

Edited by - JAVA on 22 January 2001 7:48:27

Smartgirlpw

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Edited by - Smartgirlpw on 23 January 2001 16:36:33

ianao

Well hello there Smartgirlpw.

We have got to stop judging and just make do with our situations and either "piss or get off the pot" as it were. Remember, this is suppossed to be an open forum, not a bashing forum. To each his own, but give it a rest already about all this "wah,wah" stuff.

The "pissing" that I hear on this forum are people who have been through some interesting, and COMMON experiences. I don't know about you, but I NEVER get off the pot until I'm finished pissing. To do so, especially when you still have pissing to do is silly, and sometimes MESSY.

As far as this being an open forum, you are correct. Anyone is free to comment/complement/praise/bash anything they like. The theological (and otherwise) discussions on this board go far beyond "what does the latest issue of WT and awake say to you?"

The FDS is to dispense with "food at the proper time", perhaps the "1975 Fiasco" was exactly what was needed to weed the garden?

Well, let me see. From my research, and looking in the WTs of the late sixtys, early seventys, seems to me that the WTBTS "expected" many things to occur, and, wouldn't it by a "fullfilment of the divine promise" for the end of this system of things! How wonderful! No need to marry! No need to educate onesself! PREACH PREACH PREACH! That's all you need to do!

Oh excuse me. Oh, and regarding this little comment about "1975 Fiasco". Are you saying that the garden was weeded from those who put TOO MUCH faith in "God's spirit-directed organization"? Did these people listen to TOO MUCH of their "food at the proper time"? Wow. Doesn't look like you JWs take your religion as seriously as your GB thinks you should. You know, speaking of "1975 fiascos", were you not baptized after the initial DECLINE of members because of this fiasco? But, I guess this is not important to you anyway. Maybe you are like so many other xtian church-goers, and you don't take this "religion" stuff too seriously, do you?

You know, I feel sorry for you. I would recommend that you research into the "1975 fiasco", but all you will do is look at the commentary from the VERY ORGANIZATION that wants to put themselves in a good light. May God help you!

Pathofthorns

The FDS is to dispense with "food at the proper time", perhaps the "1975 Fiasco" was exactly what was needed to weed the garden?

Since when is "food at the proper time" lies and misleading false hopes? Since when does Jehovah lead or "weed the garden" with lies and false hopes? What sickening and ignorant comments. They make a mockery of God. If he was "weeding his garden" he must have been taking out those who were loyal to him and not some group of men.

And as far as your comments go Xandit, you simply betray the reality of how the system works. Sure your viewpoint was a correct and proper one, but you would have been counselled at best and labelled an apostate at worst, had you gone on a platform in the late sixties and outright condemned the speculation regarding 1975.

The fact is responsiblity for raising any hopes for 1975 rests EXCLUSIVELY at the feet of the Society because as we know, no thought of this nature is permitted to originate at the local level. The Society is perfectly capable of silencing divergent thought and they did nothing to stop or caution the hype surrounding this date.

The fact that the Society admits guilt (i've never seen a more cleverly worded acknowlegement of guilt) in Watchtower articles published in 1980 show they DID encourage this irresponsible behavior.

This subject i find absolutely disgusting. Click here to hear a talk given by a CO on 1975. [url] http://www.watchtowernews.org/wav/sunutko75.html[/url]

JAVA

Smartgirlpw:

The FDS is to dispense with "food at the proper time", perhaps the "1975 Fiasco" was exactly what was needed to weed the garden?

I agree; first God's organization builds up an expectation in the flock, then in 1976 God's organization weeds the garden of anyone foolish enough to believe them. Thank you for sharing this wisdom, it explains everything.

Hey, if that's how it works, is God's organization "weed(ing) the garden" of members who are foolish enough die because of refusing life-saving blood transfusions? Pull those weeds; the members who hear but do nothing needs to grow in God's garden.

JAVA, counting time at the Coffee Shop

Edited by - JAVA on 22 January 2001 8:32:31

Smartgirlpw

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Edited by - Smartgirlpw on 23 January 2001 16:37:41

JAVA

Smartgirlpw:

My, my did I touch a nerve? Does the truth hurt?

Yeah, stupid upsets ianao, but not me--I really like it, please keep posting.

JAVA, counting time at the Coffee Shop

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