Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone 494 Replies latest social current

• 

  tec

  Here is some realism to ponder over. Animals never sinned. Interestingly enough though if you study Chimpanzees, you'll find that they form groups and actually war with other groups of their own kind for territory and resources, and they kill each other! A great movie

  just came out several months back that really showed how this is, my jaw dropped at what I saw.

  There are countless other species that do this too, so it's not strictly the domain of man to cause suffering. Suffering is abundant in the animal kingdom too without any interference from man. So if god exists, did he put this into the design? It would seem illogical if his goal is to have peace unto all his creation. When you look at this, it seems highly unlikely that there is a supreme god who really gives a hoot as the bible describes.

  There was no suffering or death before the 'fall'... before death entered the WORLD. Not just man, but the world.

  Furthermore if Jesus was supposed to help man out with suffering and other issues, what the heck is taking so long to cash the check? Why would a god of love wait soooo long to do that? Especially on behalf of children who are starving and crying out to him?

  Suffering continues because of our action. God will not lose even one who belongs to Him; not one sheep. He will not commit an evil or break a promise. So He will not act until He knows that none of those who belong to Him (or Christ) will be lost.

  All of the EVIDENCE that is in so far points to the conclusion that we really are on our own, and we need to stop confusing people with fairytales of the next life, how someone in the sky feels their pain, and make the most of what we have now.

  Faith in Christ and God does not stop anyone from making the most of what they have now. Anyone who tells you otherwise, does not know.

  Peace,

  tammy
• 

  still thinking

  Stereotypical christian apologist... the label he placed after my name when he quoted me ;

  Thats a description of what you are doing...not a label...drummer boy, fly, rabbit is a label.
• 

  still thinking

  the bible says that God has caused those who weren't His to do His will...cyrus, king of persia, ezekiel 29:4-5.

  In that case...why not make everyone do his will and feed the hungry?...boom! no more hungry...simple.

  And...what happened to free will?..did I lose mine? Is he making me do stuff now without my knowledge?
• 

  elderelite

  oh for hank sake...... really tec? really? did you hear the whole thing... the whole jehshua whatyamacall him or just the jehshua part? was it in a language older than hebrew that your brain translated into spanish and then into something resembling proper english? for god sake, just admit you view the woman as prophetess. Just admit that you follow HER and not some imaginary voice in your head. NO ONE in the history of mankind has ever heard the lord call himself by that name, and yet now you claim to hear it as well as her... so faintly you could have missed it... could have missed it but for your teacher telling you. And the whole wisper thing... really? the creator of heaven and earth wispering? cant speak clearly to be heard? is he afraid someone is going to overhear? it rediculous comming from her. Its sad from you.
• 

  tec

  Well, if we're going to get technical, lol... I didn't label you a drummer boy. I said you followed me around LIKE the drummer boy. (not that drummer boy in your pic, btw, but rather the kid who followed demi moore around to make sure everyone knew she - the adulterous - was coming)

  Peace,

  tammy
• 

  still thinking

  I like the drummer boy in my pick...I am drumming messages to the sheep about Jesus...LOL It's in code. Only true followers will be able to discern what it means... and hear it.
• 

  EntirelyPossible

  What EE said.
• 

  tootired2care

  Suffering continues because of our action.

  Really? That is total supposition. Answer me this then, what was the point of Jesus even bothering to come and die for our sins? Show me where in the bible it states that God's plan for unicorns and rainbows is dependent upon the actions of humans.

  There was no suffering or death before the 'fall'

  So god just put those sharp teeth on Lions to look cool?

  Faith in Christ and God does not stop anyone from making the most of what they have now.

  Actually it does. It does because people will put up with things the way they are instead of rising up, because they believe the superior authorities stand placed in their relative positions by god; so they just put up with despots, and dictators and allow their children to starve. Because it's "gods will".
• 

  still thinking

  Have you heard the drum beat EE....the drummer is sending you a message...you have to ask and pray to hear it though...otherwise...you won't...
• 

  tec

  oh for hank sake...... really tec? really? did you hear the whole thing... the whole jehshua whatyamacall him or just the jehshua part?

  I saw and heard 'jah' and the rest 'eshua' was more of a whisper, that i could have ignored.

  was it in a language older than hebrew that your brain translated into spanish and then into something resembling proper english?

  Jaheshua is not english. Joshua would be english.

  (unless you are referring to the letters... then no I did not see hebrew letters; those would have meant nothing to me)

  for god sake, just admit you view the woman as prophetess.

  I cannot becasue it would be a lie.

  If I did, I would have used that name more than a year ago. I refused to use the name because I had not heard it for myself.

  However, Shelby is hardly the first or only person to use that name. Yeshua, Jaheshua, Yehoshua, and other variations are all used; and in Jewish writings as well. And Joshua is more accurate than Jesus. So I don't know why it seems to be such a big deal for so many people.

  Just admit that you follow HER and not some imaginary voice in your head.

  Well, that would be a no to both, actually. Can't admit something that is not true.

  NO ONE in the history of mankind has ever heard the lord call himself by that name, and yet now you claim to hear it as well as her... so faintly you could have missed it... could have missed it but for your teacher telling you.

  If you did a little research, you would find out otherwise, and perhaps be forced to admit to some ignorance in this area.

  And the whole wisper thing... really? the creator of heaven and earth wispering? cant speak clearly to be heard? is he afraid someone is going to overhear? it rediculous comming from her. Its sad from you.

  A whisper... so as not to frighten or force someone to a truth they cannot yet accept. A whisper or quiet speak... so the listener must pay attention, to the exclusion of all those other loud and shouting voices out there. Like the WTS for instance.

  Peace,

  tammy