Jesus wife fragment is a fake

by Christ Alone 494 Replies latest social current

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  NewChapter

  I know it is unreasonable/irrational", you have only just started pushing this irresponsible/dangerous line.

  I see---it's a tactic? But YOU care about others? Did it ever occur to you that as I was watching this batshit crazy talk about voices and visions unfold here, it was happening concurrently with me watching my friend deteriorate? Tactic? Really? Why do you think I started talking more about it? A tactic? Even my friend, who recently had a serious psychotic break thinks this is all batshit crazy. I'll let her know it was all a tactic to silence you though. Arrogant much?

  Then I saw more----people making life and death decisions based on voices heard. An article about a man who heard voices that went on to kill his family----yeah----it was a tactic.

  No real concern there. Happy little world.
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  EntirelyPossible

  The problem, Tec, is that the answers are like trying to nail jello to a wall. Don't get me wrong, I live in a world of high politics where everything is constantly shifting and moving and there are rarely exact and direct answers. I am OK with that, but I always have the option to talk to people up above me, they show up, give feedback, etc.

  In the model you espouse, it's always our fault, we get no feedback, you have to ask and ask and ask and you still probably get nothing. It's a little frustrating.
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  tec

  I said it feels like a tactic. Because after two years, you are only speaking of this now. So maybe it is concurrant with things that are rising up in your personal life. Maybe it is that for you.

  Not for some others who are jumping on that wagon.

  As for a believer who does not believe in such things... I would have specific questions for them. But I will not ask them of your friend; and not through you; out of concern for her and respect for her choices and wishes.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  tec

  In the model you espouse, it's always our fault, we get no feedback, you have to ask and ask and ask and you still probably get nothing. It's a little frustrating.

  Its cool. I get it. My advice is to maybe stop worrying about it, just trust him, and perhaps simply do the things He asks of us. That is what I did. It was tempting to be frustrated, or to wonder what I was doing wrong, or whatever else we ask ourselves... but in the end, I just trusted Him to answer on His time, and I just followed Him through His teachings and through love, as best as I could.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  NewChapter

  I said it feels like a tactic

  Word games. Her husband is like you---talks to the lord and hears him. Had her so messed up, I couldn't believe it. And as much as I tried to tell her he was hearing no such thing, it still messed her up. He's gone now, and it's the healthiest thing that ever happened to her. I wouldn't want her to talk to you either, we don't need a replay.
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  EntirelyPossible

  Its cool. I get it. My advice is to maybe stop worrying about it, just trust him, and perhaps simply do the things He asks of us.

  He's not talking to me, therefore he's not asking me anything. How can I do what someone asks who isn't asking, or trust someone who isn't talking?
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  tec

  Everyone knows what he asks of us, EP.

  Love one another; golden rule; forgive and show mercy above all else. Feed the poor, serve your fellow man, rather than dominate your fellow man.

  These things are truths. If someone cannot recognize them, then someone is not listening even to simple love.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  EntirelyPossible

  Everyone knows what he asks of us? He ain't asked me for shit, your platitude not withstanding.

  People were doing the golden rule 2000 years before JC showed up, the Babylonians, specifically. He's got nothing on them.

  If someone can't recognize that, they have a heavy bias towards promoting Jesus as something he wasn't.

  So, my question remains.
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  NewChapter

  It's so much older than that. Jesus didn't even come close to being the first to promote such a notion. It is actually deep in our evolution, and involves reciprocity. There are different types of reciprocity that enabled humans to survive. I may not be able to post this little excerpt until the next post, but when I learned about reciprocity in my anthropology courses, it struck me that certain types reflected the golden rule, and is very old, and practiced by people who never heard of, and maybe still haven't heard of, Jesus.

  Christians like to credit Jesus with it, and written down, it is older, but as a practice it is as old as we are.
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  still thinking

  Not for some others who are jumping on that wagon.

  If that is referring to me...it was me that showed NC the article she is referring too.... (I think thats the one she's referring to anyway, I could be wrong)

  And there have been other threads lately about schizophrenic behaviour being 'misunderstood'.

  This is all VERY dangerous. So from me, there is no tactic. I have family and friends that have suffered with schizophrenia...It's personal.