by cofty 76 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Those who defend war in principle obviously prefer to do so on a theoretical level, because they realise that in practice is almost always indefensible. That is not to change the issue it is to clarify it.
I will of course agree with the point that it is right to defend yourself and your family from threat. But what has that got to do with modern warfare between nation states?
Pretty broad brush, slim. Help me out: When Moltke sends his armies through Belgium in August of 1914, the moral Belgian response was to fight, was it not? The French, also, were correct to fight, yes? These are perfectly modern examples, it seems to me.
So I suggest it is you who are being theoretical here, ignoring concrete examples.
[edit] It also seems that you have this nostalgic idea that war ain't what it used to be, or something. They've always been this complex -- sometimes nakedly aggressive, sometimes purely defensive, usually a mixture of both.
Was it not an ethical failure when we prevaricated and failed to kill more aggressors to prevent the massacres, ethnic cleansings and mass rapes in Bosnia in the 1990s?
Is it ethical for americans to try to dictate the lives or deaths of people in bosnia, or the other dozens of places all over the world where the media and govt points their attention? Seems to me that the media and govt dictates your ethics. The media and govts have absolutely no ethics. They are solely based on self interest, increase in power and domination, increase of ownership and control.
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How ethical is it to kill people that your govt and media pushes you to kill?
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What do you know about the Bosnian war Satanus?
Its got nothing to do with media, it happened in 1995 and the facts are now beyond dispute.
Nothing is beyond dispute.
You have been a Jehovah's Witness, a Christian and a staunch atheist in succession over the last 20 years. No doubt each and every time you simply "could not understand" how anyone could see things differently from you. The belief structure changes but curiously the certainly remains intact.
When I emerged from the Watchtower mental universe (pun intended) I found a different path. I didn't feel it necessary to swap one set of certainties for another, but I try to learn to live with uncertainty instead.
Slim,
The your agnostic in your views on everything. I think that to be a formula for increasing your reality tunnel.
No doubt each and every time you simply "could not understand" how anyone could see things differently from you.
You could not be more wrong. Why did I move from cult to christianity to atheism unless I was listening to other opinons and opposing facts all the time?
I didn't leave the borg because I was pissed off at anybody, I left because I studied the hell out of the bible and old publications and concluded it was false. I left christianity after years of studying apologetics and vastly differing attempts to resolve the question of evil.
You could attack me for many things but easy certainty is not one of my failings.
Any thoughts on the topic by the way or do you prefer ad hominem?
I am not using ad hominem to make an argument. I am responding to your comment in the previous thread that you simply "could not understand" anyone who is pacifist in outlook. Your definitive statements on many subjects lead me to conclude that such incredulity is your predominant response when confronted with contrary views on just about any subject. "Science proves this", "such and such is beyond dispute" and so on. I don't just disagree with your conclusions. I disagree with your entire approach.
