Does This Happen to You? I Need Help :/

by DarioKehl 37 Replies latest jw experiences

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    I've noticed it's a crab in a bucket type of scenario. I've never met a group of people so intent sharing the misery but if u decide u had enough, truly desire to be happy with one's self and move on, the rumours come in.

    Years back I moved from one part of the city to another and people had me involved with a df'd sister that had moved, (or rumoured to have moved), into the same area. I actually had a few friends call me on it. I was floored when after the 3rd call, I realized these people were frickin serious. And they threw it at me like, "well prove it isn't true". I said "prove your not an idiot."

    Now when i hear rumours I laugh. I've been out 8 years and there's nothing in these pathetic little twits mind but to rummage up rumours on me. Sad, truly sad.

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    DarioKehl: I was forced to participate and provide the appropriate JW reaction to gossip about "apostates."

    I understand the internal pressure you must feel, I really do. Have you tried just deflect this kind of conversation by saying something like, "You know, I'm really not comfortable listening to a bunch of unconfirmed rumors and gossip about people that I (used to) know and care about!"

    It's a Conversation Stopper!

    DarioKehl: I got a potent reminder of just how horribly apostates and exJWs are perceived from within the bOrg.

    Then try a little verbal jiu-jitsu on her and flip the script, "Seriously, how do you know any of the stuff you're saying is true? Are YOU secretly hanging out with these people?"

    They need to demonize those that leave to reinforce their twisted belief system.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    "You know, I'm really not comfortable listening to a bunch of unconfirmed rumors and gossip about people that I (used to) know and care about!"

    That is a cool response

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    DarioKehl: That's exactly how they will think of me if they ever find out: the destructive and evil enemy whose only interest is attacking a prized possession.

    That's true. And there's really nothing you can do about it. So it's good, really good, you're having time to prepare for that. In the meantime you can do much good by continuing to be

    DarioKehl: It kills me to think that I will be the cause of those feelings--however inappropriate and inaccurate they may be--in people I deeply care about.

    This is NOT TRUE. You are most definitely NOT the cause of those feelings. This what the WTBTS wants you to believe. Think this through: They are the ones that are the cause of these thoughts and beliefs which lead to those feelings. And then just like any manipulative abuser they do what abusers do best: They blame the victim.

    But you don't have to be the victim. You have a choice.

    It's empowering to learn what we can and cannot control. It can be difficult to accept that at times, but reality is reality. Don't argue with it, you'll lose every time!

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    Always bear in mind that there is no way to leave this organisation with your dignity.

    I gotta' disagree with that. I know that this is a commonly repeated meme, I've said it myself. But it simply is not true. (A few of us have been discussing this very topic on THIS THREAD).

    What IS true is that there is no dignified or honorable way to leave from the perspective of the WTBTS and those that continue to adhere to its tenets and beliefs.

    However, dignity and honor are not something that another person can take from us. We can only give it away or lose it ourselves. Once we wake up to the hypocrisy and lies of a group like Jehovah's Witnesses then the ONLY honorable and dignified course of action is to renounce it.

    T. H. Huxley wrote, "The foundation of morality is to ... give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence and repeating unitelligible propositions about things beyond the possibilities of knowledge."

    That does not mean that we have to do so publicly or even formally. For some writing a DA letter is important. They need to formally sever their ties and make a statement. For others to simply walk away and never return does the trick.

    We don't need to play their game. Live your own life, on your terms. Create and reassert appropriate personal boundaries. All of this can be done in a firm and loving way. We can't control how others react, we can only control ourselves and that's damn hard to do!

    Be an example for those still in by living a good, happy and moral life apart from the cult. Refuse to be the stereotypical angry, disgruntled evil apostate. That will be confusing to them but it may help them to wake up.

    Living well is the best revenge!

    00DAD

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    WH: ... it's a crab in a bucket ...

    That's too funny!

    JWs got crabs!!!

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    Be an example for those still in by living a good, happy and moral life apart from the cult. Refuse to be the stereotypical angry, disgruntled evil apostate. That will be confusing to them but it may help them to wake up.

    Living well is the best revenge!

    So true. When a close friend years back asked what I was up, to after realizing I hadn't been to a meeting in years, I said "short of knocking on doors and putting on a suit a few times a week. not much different. The bible is still the bible and I'm not waiving signs at the DC. I'm doing good. Ironically, this same friend is the one who contacted me recently because the elders were offering little to no help.

  • 00DAD
  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    was he pointing his middle claw at them as he exited the building?

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    BluesBrother - "Why are ex believers hated so much? I guess they are feared, or at least their ideas are..."

    Nailed it.

    Before my fade started, I was struggling more and more with my doubts, misgivings, and "wait a minute" moments...

    As much as I wanted to know more, I was scared that if I looked too deep down the rabbit hole, my own sense of intellectual integrity wouldn't allow me to stay.

    But eventually, I had to take the blue pill; that same sense of intellectual integrity demanded it.

    And I turned out to be right.

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