Does anyone think there was a great deliverance of the Hebrews from Egyptian captivity?

by humbled 50 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • mP
    mP

    Mary

    owever, like many ancient stories (like Noah's Flood), it probably has a bit of truth in it and is based on some event that really did happen.

    mP:

    Most settlements are near rivers or the sea. Floods happen, thats a fact of lie. Survivors of bad floods are going to need a boat, they dont have helicopters or cars to drive away. The vast majority of story writes itself. How else are they going to surivive ? They also need to save their animals if they can.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    If it occurred on the scale reported in the Bible, 3RD parties would reference it. They do not. The story seems to be commissioned centuries later to boost the legitimacy of a much more evolved nation state.

    Shakespeare bolstered the legitimacy of Tudor and

    The

  • QC
    QC

    Band,

    Did you get my PM?

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    Looks like Band met an untimely end mid sentence....

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    mP says ...

    The fact that they copied the architecture , religious ceremonies, writings and more from locals shows they were not original. They were original in that they got greedy and wasted it all.

    In going monotheist from polytheist the high priests also circumvented their own recognized power on to themselves,

    which greatly elevated importance and position within their civilization.

  • mP
    mP

    F:

    Of course its all about the $. Notice Leviticus is all about taking care of priests, priests do this and that, but not a single law about helping orphans or slaves. Not only do they get free food but they cant be bothered to share it with the homeless or poor. Pathetic aresholes.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    As I mention earlier could the inhabitation in Egypt instigated going toward one god instead of many gods from witnessing the power

    and prestige of the living Pharaohs ..... ummmm ???

  • mP
    mP

    F:

    SOmehow i think part of the answer for Judaic monolarity not monotheism, is they shared the land with the Canaanites which of course had their own gods and goddesses. Since these communities were very close, there was nothing stopping jews for going to that church for some fun and sex instad of coming to the levite equivalent. Temple in those days was quite different form now, they all had prostitutes male and female, food and sacrifices. Nobody read books or listened to lectures for hours. Judea was also humble, i guess the competition took too much business away from the levites. The people were poor and they werent getting enough of the small share that was left. We can see the centralisation in Jerusalem is further consolidation. Its madness to think how unpractical it is for the entire nation to travel to that one spot to pay their dues. Travel in those days was tough, walking for days and so on. Even today that sort of drive would be a major inconvenience and costly. The limited technology of those times further magnifies the totalitarianism of their mindset. Everything is about them for their advantage and who gives a shit about the poor jew. No wonder most stayed in Babylon rather than return to rebuild Jersualem and Judea when they were let free.

    Also given praying to Jehovah didnt help when it really mattered, you cant blame the peasents for going to closer more practical gods.

    I think the story of Egypt is trying to say that the Jews are the continuation of Egypt. The greatness of Egypt is really theirs. They even copied circumcision which was reserved just for Pharoah and the upper elites and applied it to the nation. Of course that stupid talisman doesnt actually change anything but as a good luck charm maybe it made them feel better. Even in the NT we hear of Jesus going to Egypt. Little is said but some say this is to get an education. Egypt was a major center of learning back in those days.

  • moshe
    moshe

    the manna story- and their clothes didn't wear out, either. More good supernatural stuff to make all the other nation's gods seem puny by comparison.

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    James Brown, it has been established by legitimate archaeoligists that Ron Wyatt is full of crap (to paraphrase).

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