The CO 'encourages' Julia to meet with THREE elders- the latest episode in the best-selling drama, The Fade of Julia Orwell.

by Julia Orwell 45 Replies latest jw friends

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    The best sales people genuinely like people. Reminds me of a sales guy i dealt w over the period of many yrs. The first time i met him, he came right into a dirty construction site that we were working. He was helpful over the many yrs that followed. However, sales is always at the bottom of it.

    That co is a wt corporate salesman. The bought and own him. He is more owned than the my salesman. He has much less leeway than my salesman. You see the good in his heart. But, he WILL do what needs to be done for his corp. He is also the wt hitman, if that is needed.

    S

  • ÁrbolesdeArabia
    ÁrbolesdeArabia

    Posting your incriminating photos or comments never hurt the "good guys" here, dam, a Ministerial Servant could offer his child up to Satan and still get away with "It was a honest mistake, we meant to kill our baby to Jehovah!" in my region. If you are from a family who put's out for the Organization you can do no harm.

    Imagine you post a photo of you and two other ministerial servants at a Strip Club, nobody end's up loosing their position because they "did not know going to a Strip Club and posting it on Snakebook would stumble anyone with a weak or strong conscience!" Real story and this did happen, I have the photos I will repost in some future date to demonstrate how wicked men can get away with anything when you "put out for the Organization!"

  • ÁrbolesdeArabia
  • konceptual99
    konceptual99

    Three elders coming round to your own house, one of them being the CO will not be a JC. The CO may even have honourable intents. The problem is that it gives them ample opportunity to try and discuss whatever they want with you. How likely is it that the conersation will stick to a high level clearing of the air between you and Snake?

    The elders are well versed in giving people just enough rope and then watching them hang themselves. The CO will be a grand master at the technique. I am sure I am preaching to the converted when I say do not meet with them. You will have to be squeaky clean on FB etc for a VERY long time as they will be monitoring you to see if there is anything that can be used to force the issue.

    it sounds like a highly stressful situation but they will get the hint soon I am sure.

    All the best

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    We've been friends for so long, and he's had a hell of a hard life.

    Funny, that's what I was told after an elder in Bethel held me up against a wall and said he would kill me if I called him by his nickname again. When a JW is a prick they are excused as being only human, but if it was a worldly person it would be because they are on Satan's side.

  • Calebs Airplane
    Calebs Airplane

    Standard pre-JC procedure 101.

  • maisha
    maisha

    I had a CO Save my arse from 3 elders once,,, but those three so called friends didnt give up... They Destroyed my Business, and my family.

    they got blood in the end...

    Wifey was the first EASY target.....

    Many Sincere CO's are out there and they can restrict an elder whom THEY dont like.

    Some times such things work for both parties benifit.. the problem is time and how long the Co remains in the area and

    how long the elder lasts.

    Did he come alone?... that would tell me he wanted quiet info on sparky and snake,, dirt to bring them down or hold them back.

    I would say you are safe for now and well handled.

    But even Ray Franz couldnt hide... Eventually they Will get you!.

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    I find myself leaning towards what Calebs Airplane observed.

    Well done though, Julia.

    If only you and hubby could "move" to another (foreign language) congregation, and immediately take a 6 month holiday from the Watchtower's Kingdom Hell.

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    Poor Julia ... these guys are like good ratting dogs. They will keep digging at it, and try to break down your defences to get you. The best thing to do is to say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING .... Say nothing is best, attitude. thankfully you have some good worldly training under your belt due to your upbringing. You have skills woman. Valuable skills.

    This is something we forget when we get owned by wt. These are skills honest hearted people and good jw's NEVER aquire or learn how to hone. They are like lambs among wolves.

    i have realised how society '' THE GAME '' works. It's dog eat dog out there. I'm learning so much about all of this. I used to know a lot of it when I was younger, but you forget when your brain has been rinsed clean so it's easier to manipulate and control.

    Some people are genuine snakes, no matter what label they go by. Politicians, Public sector workers and 'company men' are masters of the 'game'.

    Was just chatting bout all this with my partner ( I have found love and it is amazing - lol)

    What is really go on in the world. How important it is to be able to recognise/know 'the game' and to be able to 'play the game'. Stelath tactics, cunning and wisdom are valuable tools.

    The thing is these people are highly trained by masters in the game, they are masters. the ruling elite are there in existence because they are masters of the game.

    It is so important to be able to look beyond the facade, look outside the box, and see the 'big picture'.

    A friend, a very good person, wise person, taught me something very important which I never forget ......... It focuses on deals/sales but is a tactic to be used in any setting in life when your in a situation of 'stale mate' unsurety.

    THE FIRST PERSON WHO SPEAKS ..... HAS LOST. ...... the game.

    Never be the first one to break the silence and speak, no matter what, just stand there and let them talk, no matter how long it takes.

    It is true. Never be the first one to break.

    They are circling you looking for your weakness, like wolves, predators. Watch how long they will take to wear down and out manouvre the prey.

    much love

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Never ceases to amaze me that people as far away from Brooklyn/Patterson NY as one can get -- Aussies in this case -- to dance to their tune!

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