Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

by OUTLAW 447 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    On page 7 of this thread, Simon offered the following two possibilities for AAWA not wanting to further indulge the identity of the guilty party:

    a) It genuinely was a 3rd party who maliciously setup a copy-cat group, stole your identity (name and logo) and outed people. Yet despite all of this you continue to protect their identity and they get away with no hint of doubt over their character, free to harm other people in future. Way to help the community !!

    b) It wasn't a 3rd party at all which would be another reason for you to be so adamant not to name the person involved (previous claims etc...)

    Per fizzywiglet’s post, along with several other corroborations, we now know that the correct answer is (b). Since we are seemingly not allowed to expose her name in this forum, I am forced to use ‘her’ or ‘she’.

    So… (to borrow the phrasing of the illustrious AAWA President), to re-cap:

    An AAWA representative/coordinator (not sure in what capacity she serves) added people into the group’s Facebook page without permission. When confronted by a user who was outed, she said something to the effect of it would be too much work to invite people to join one by one.

    This person (she) has been involved with AAWA months before the official launch and well into the planning and embryonic stages. She was/is closely involved with the AAWA president since she was contacting people on his behalf in making the YouTube launch video, and evidently played some role in the production of the video itself. Though she is not a listed member of the advisory board, the very fact that she was involved before there even was a group lends credence to the fact that she was/is an official AAWA representative and coordinator.

    So this was not just a random volunteer who got overexcited and started adding people to the Facebook group, as we first were led to believe. This is someone who had the AAWA’s official sanction in her representative/coordinator work. By failing to acknowledge her name or even existence, the president has left a few open questions.

    Did the AAWA sanction what she did at the time? Did they know what she was doing and approved? Did they at first give her the go-ahead, and then pulled support once this situation became evident? Or did they have no clue as to what she was doing at all and only found out about it after the fact?

    These are all reasonable questions to ask, which unfortunately have not been answered. The next logical step would be to detail what steps were or are going to be made to rectify the situation with their representative (she). Perhaps a statement from the offending party? Even an acknowledgement that a person affiliated with their group did indeed add people on Facebook to their group and as a consequence, outing people as apostates who were until now not looked upon as such?

    The name has been outed. You know who we are talking about.

    To borrow another line from the AAWA president:

    We await your response.

  • betterdaze
    betterdaze

    wha happened that is a good question! They already have a website: jwactivists.org

    They should have just set up a private message board there. 100% Voluntary opt-in, password protected, some open forums and others separated for each committee. Different levels of privileges assigned to each enduser.

    It's not rocket science. We were doing this in the corporate world with dial-up intranets in the early-to-mid 1990's.

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    Is it too early for a tactless gif?

    Na, thought not...

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    wha happened, good to see your return

    It's seems from what I've WITNESSED, and unless other members AWAKE to a new found reality of their presidents mind set, I see only negatives.

    After all, how many times does one have to mention on a web site "we are an incorporated" org. on ALL pages? Also they may care about who's who (circle jerk) and think many do too? Many want to see approach and execution of issues. Talk is cheap. Approach is vital to be effective. But it's obvious what approch they've chosen which is a copycat Annyony.....who does NOT give a ratz ass about thier victims. Didn't anyone overveiw what was written? Or was it all up to Cedars?

    Yes, I gather I could have emailed him with suggestions, but I've WITNESSED first hand how suggestions are viewed. I gather I could seem out for blood (Cedars claim) but there's way too many red flags.

    Unless Cedars gets his head out of his arse, and or members take their blinders off having more of a say (uless they did and are of the same mindset), I see only havoc. And I'll be damned if they think they are representative of me and THE CAUSE.

    Mis handling accross the board Mr Pres.

  • undercover
    undercover

    AWAA Fan Page

  • tornapart
    tornapart

    Tylinbrando: " If you don't want to be outed, stay off Facebook"

    What!??!!

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    Thanks MB. I've been back for some time. I returned when my friend Eric died. I needed to vent and speak with others that knew him.

    The silence is deafening from the AWAA

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    Ha....I'm the one who's been away and for some reason I thought you were too.....

    Good point wha.....that's one other thing which has been forgotten.....there's many more affected of delicate dispositon as Ompaas well as other of EX-JW's (or those trying to get out). It's a total emotional/mental un winding. A wise approach is everything. It "seems" AAWA care more about who they are, then those they claim they're trying to help.......

  • HintOfLime
    HintOfLime
    The silence is deafening from the AWAA

    I'm betting they met internally and agreed that if they ignore the issue and don't post about it, it'll go away faster. They are forgetting people on this forum have long memories.

    Personally, I think their credibility and reputation is maybe just a tad above that of Six Screens. They angered a lot of people and didn't do anything to right those who they hurt. Anything they post on this board in the future will likely be immediately responded to with by critism and controversy, followed by pleas to the mod that their threads are 'kept on topic' etc. Ugh

    They really got their new organization off on the wrong foot.

    - Lime

  • Simon
    Simon

    It's easy in hindsight to see how things could have been handled differently, possibly better ... but don't forget that while things are going on and it's battle-stations / all-hands on deck that there will be confusion and it's easy for mistakes to be made.

    Let's cut them some slack ... I don't think anyone has intentionally set out to hurt or mislead anyone.

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