Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

by OUTLAW 447 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  Dismissing servant

  So, you are still denying the fact that people have been outed? This is interesting.
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  Tylinbrando

  I think it's extremely important that people have the ability to join a group, but no group should automatically join people.

  I fully agree with this and believe Facebook should eliminate the option to do so.
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  Simon

  Secret in the sense that non-members don't know you are there and can't determine that unless they themselves join the group

  This is exactly the issue ... there are already identities in the 1300 people who were joined who are either completely unknown or known apologists and there doesn't appear to be any barrier to membership. Having a secret group and then announcing it to the world seems to defeat the purpose and IMO facebook is NOT SUITABLE for this kind of thing for people who could suffer severe negative consequences if their identities were revealed to family or the WTS.
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  Dismissing servant

  I think Simon expressed this problem very clearly in the other AAWA-thread:

  "Don't shoot the messenger just because they give you bad news! And don't dismiss people's legitimate concerns as attempts to redicule.

  People are trying to help you avoid organization-ending events but to be helped, people need to listen and the constant denials that anything has gone wrong are what I believe is infuriating people."

  It's not a problem for me...as far as I know I haven't been outed. But we certainly know people have.
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  Tylinbrando

  Im not denying people have been outed. I even stated that active JW's saw in my newsfeed I had been joined to a Facebook Group bearing AAWA graphics Etc. For all intent and purpose I was outed and had to respond when questioned. However, that was not the Official AAWA Secret Group that caused me the hassle.

  Blace blame where it is warranted.

  AAWA's statement says not one person so far has come forward with a complaint of being outed.

  Of course I'm sure those of you who are horny for Cedars or the AAWA group will make it a case of he said she said.

  That's why I opened up the question here. Where are those that were outed? Lets see how their story fits into the facts.
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  Dismissing servant

  "I fully agree with this and believe Facebook should eliminate the option to do so."

  It's possible to have that opportunity. In a secret XJV-group I belong to, every new potential member is checked out by the administrator. Noone cad add people to that group.
  This is the point...by letting someone add mabe 1000 people you made the group corrupt (with active WT-apologist etc). That's the reason why it should be a good idea deleting the whole group and restart it.
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  slimboyfat

  AAWA's statement says not one person so far has come forward with a complaint of being outed.

  Rebel complained on the original thread about being outed. Why does she not count? Dagney personally knew of others. So that's baloney.
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  Tylinbrando

  She does count. And she was outed by a fan page mimicking AAWA's official Secret Group just like I was. That is the facts.

  Has Rebel contacted AAWA through email?
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  Simon

  However, that was not the Official AAWA Secret Group that caused me the hassle

  I'm pleased for you but that's just YOUR experience. The group was made open (previous statements), membership has not been controlled and they are still promoting people to join which ultimately means identities could already be and continue to be revealed.

  AAWA's statement says not one person so far has come forward with a complaint of being outed.

  They have said a lot of things and now refuse to discuss anything, making a spin-statement that can easily be picked apart. So claims that no one has or will be affected are a bit weak - people have already said they have been.

  Of course I'm sure those of you who are horny for Cedars or the AAWA group will make it a case of he said she said.

  Which is why it's important to be open and honest and if a mistake has been made, to rectify it. So far, I don't believe everything has been addressed.

  That's why I opened up the question here. Where are those that were outed? Lets see how their story fits into the facts.

  You won't know who has possibly been affected for weeks if not months. I think you're being cavalier and dismissive with people's lives.
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  Tylinbrando

  Again it becomes He said She said wrought with speculation, assumption, and hearsay. It may be baloney! But what we have on one side of this tug of war created here is AAWA producing public statements in an effort to give a full picture of the events as they unfolded. Then what happens?

  The statements are attacked as "spin", "Bullsh*t", Etc.

  Very interesting to watch this unfold and see the passions of many of the posters here and what they are attacking.