How to Recognize Counterfeit Christian Religions (page 2)

villagegirl

The Nicene Creed ? Adopted in 325 AD.

Eastern Orthodox do not recognize this creed.

The Nicene Creed was a political doctrine linking Rome

and Constantine as the ultimate "governing body" type authority.

It is a creed of Catholicism, specifically Roman Catholic, Pope led authority.

The Emperor Constantine's "conversion" to Christianity was a political move.

Many factions of original Christianity were overthrown simply because Constantine favored

Athanasius over Arius. The Roman church won because it had the State of Rome and

its military might on the side of Constanine and his "Creed". Other Christians present

at the council had no chance, such as; Ossius of the Alexadrian party, Arius, and

Eastern Bishops. The Creed has been questioned since its inception: Reginald Pecock,

Bishop of St Asaph ( 1444 ) denied the apostalic authorship of the Creed and rejected

the Descent to hell. Archbishop Ussar ( 1647) also questioned the Creed, and he read

Latin and Greek and Hebrew. The religion of the first century was a pure religion of

Spirit with a complete absence of organization.

LostGeneration

Smartwater -how long have you been a JW?

villagegirl

Smartwater - Blood Guilty - is a term from the Hebrew Torah meaning:

Causing the Death of someone. The Law says: "The life is in the blood"

Blood was offered to Idols, Christians were to refrain from things offered

to Idols. jesus said; " This is my blood, drink it in remebrance of me."

Organ transplants will contain blood since blood is present in the very

tiny capilaries and veins and cells of the organ, the WT used to deny organ

transplants, now they allow them ? What about all the people the WT murdered?

THAT is Blood Guilty. Since blood transfusions have been in use, 1930's onward?

Thousands of Jehovah's Witness babies, and hemophiliac ( a blood clotting disorder)

JW's died because of WT rules - and THEN they changed the rules because of wrongful

death law suits. A faction of blood is plasma, red cells separated from white.

Its a dishonest way to protect themselves legally. The LIFE is what is sacred.

Perserving life is sacred, killing people by failing to provide medical care is

Blood Guilty.

villagegirl

Smartwater- FRUITS are supposed to be the way you treat others- read the example

of the Good Samaritan- who helped a complete stranger ( and the Samaritan was not a jew)

Jesus says the Samaritan was righteous while the official "organization" Priests and religious

people who walked by were condemned by their judgemental attitude and failure to act.

FRUITs ?? The Watchtower does no community work, build no hospitals, does not have

any poverty relief outreach, does not house the homeless, feed the hungry, or take any

interest in anyone but themselves. They publish magazines, read the magazines and

pass out the magazines - These are not "fruits" this WT organization is a dried up dead

branch bearing no fruits. Think about it.

return of parakeet

Counterfeit Christian religions can be identified by just one thing -- they call themselves Christian.

About the Nicene Creed, villagegirl, you are quite wrong. Both the eastern and western catholic churches adopted the original Nicene Creed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed. The later Apostle's creed, which elevated the Holy Ghost to the trinity, was not accepted by the Eastern Orthodox.

Most Protestant faiths also have no issues with the Nicene Creed.

jgnat

Complete absence of organization, villagegirl? You mean like the appointment of deacons, including Stephen? (Acts)

DATA-DOG

Villagegirl,

Either blood can be used or it cannot. There is no middle ground. If the Bible really condemned the use of blood ( not just the eating ) then a Christian would die rather than disobey God, end of story. If you could somehow bring one of Christ's disciples from the past into our time, would they take blood? Would they say fractions are okay, but the main components ( which are fractions ) are forbidden? Would they say that giving blood was wrong, but accepting blood given from a non-Christian was acceptable? What about products made from cow's blood? What about stored blood that was not poured out? It's either all good or all bad.

The bible does not condemn blood transfusions anymore than it condemns organ transplants. The JW ban was simply a way to distinguish their brand. They have been covering their butts ever since. They are the true leaders of stupid ideas that backfire later. Actually they are a crooked greedy corporation that should be taxed out of existence.

prologos

smart water: 27: making converts subject to Gehennah. please add:

discouraging converts to partake of the Eucharist, the emblems ,the bread and/or the wine. read John 6: no life without drinking Christs [symbolic] blood, or eating his [symbolic] flesh.

thus recognize rc & wt. by their orgs and doctrines

smarter waters keep moving on.

make waves.

How to Recognize Counterfeit Christian Religions

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