Another Newbie (page 5)

mouthy

Welcome. So good to know that there are honest elders, MS,who will NOT teach lies.
My kids dont talk to me because they are still in the WT.I was df cos I admitted i didnt

see Jesus come in 1914. You should be proud of yourselves.

Grace

Thank you to all for your kind words. It is heartening to see that there are many people like my wife and myself out there. What caused you to wake up? Are there many people doing so in light of the "new light"?

Skinnedsheep

RayPublisher

Welcome SkinnedSheep I was in the same boat as you a few years ago...I botched the "share what I've learned with the wife" part though and ultimately it killed the marriage. Well I tried anyway...

But I'm so damn happy now three years later (from my wakeup point) and it just gets better and better...

I'd love to help any time/way if I can- lemme know. ;)

Eric aka RayPub

www.JWStruggle.com

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2+2=5

Hello and welcome Skinnedsheep.

For me it was 1914/607 that opened the floodgates. This got me researching the Organizations history and it became very clear that "the truth" was a steaming pile of crap. I think researching 1914 is responsible for many waking up.

Many who served as elders, got to see that the holy spirit has little to do with the decisions and direction of this organization.

I don't think the latest new light will be directly responsible for waking up many JWs, although it may add another doubt in the mind of some, which could be enough to get them researching thier beliefs and the history of thier religion. "The Truth" does not hold up very well to scrutiny.

dissonance_resolved

Welcome SkinnedSheep! It was precisely the new light about the GB being the FDS that woke me up and I had never been phased before by prior issues such as the generations, blood, UN, etc. though I was vaguely aware and unsettled. I'm born in, 4th generation, former pioneer with my whole family still in. It is certainly a monumental task that awaits those of us who are trying to leave, especially if you have family in. This has been a great place to find support and a listening, non-judgmental ear. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

nonjwspouse

I admire you all. You have strength, courage and integrity.

obfuscatetheobvious

Welcome Skinned Sheep!

There are many reasons why I left. They kept piling up till I couldn't hold the weight anymore and I broke down. Not doctrinal, not pedophilia, not new light, not organisational, not shunning. Many of the reasons are related but none was the actual straw that broke the camels back.

Because of this I was nervous about coming here (besides the fear of "apostates" of course!) because I didn't want to latch onto someone elses very emotive, heartwrenching and personal reason for leaving and make it my "justifiable" reason for leaving. So I mainly read individual experiences - with increasing amazment that my basic story was repeated so regularly (me - born in, left school to pioneer, married a pioneer, MS, CA parts, etc).

I'm glad I did this as the space allowed me to identify who I am.

As time has progressed I am now getting interested in the doctrinal etc stuff. Purely as an intellectual exercise but I also feel some therapeutic benefits as it has helped to recover and consider a lifetime of repressed questions, feelings, thoughts and memories.

I'm glad that your wife is out with you, my amazing wife is all the way in and is torn in two. The last 6 months have been the most terrifying, amazing, hurtful, rewarding, frustrating, relieving, destructive, healing and so on ad nauseum, time in my life, particularly for my marriage. There have been many days where we have ended up closer than ever in understanding each other but only hours before we had been seconds away from all over. Add the other usual things that cause stress on marriage (finances, work, parenting, illness, etc) and there are some difficult stretches.

My wife sometimes pines for the "good old days", when we were just "happy'. On the stressful days, I understand her sentiment. From another angle, my determination to question and examine every premise has allowed us to make some massive breakthroughs on small but ever present issues that have arisen periodically during our marriage. Where will it lead? Only time will tell....

I hope you can find support that is practical and helpful to you and your wife on this forum and look forward to reading your thoughts/questions/perspective on the many and varied topics that are discussed.

Cheers Ob.

AnnOMaly

For me it was lots of little things piling up and eventually reaching critical mass. My biggies ended up being the issue of blood transfusions ... trying to find sound scriptural reasons for accepting or rejecting in good conscience the array of options given on the end-of-life/advance medical directive form - it was too confusing to fill in and I never did ... and 607/1914 (my fave) ... and the two-classes/destinies.

flipper

BTTT, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

Giordano

In at 12 out at 23 (along with my amazing wife and former pioneer partner). The banality of the publications finally got to me.....just one big yawn. I think the smell of the WT also didn't help....if boredom has a smell ....that's it.

On a more serious note the blood issue. I knew I wouldn't let my wife die for lack of a transfusion (This was back in the early 1960's when blood was needed for just about any serious trauma or surgery) and we wanted to start a family so if my child needed blood.....then they would get it in a heartbeat.

Once I knew I couldn't respect the Blood doctrine everything else just fell away.

Armageddon was another issue it was a really dumb teaching. I'd be out in service and drive by a school yard filled with little kids and think why in the world would god want to slaughter those kids? It just didn't make sense.

At the time we were pioneering where the need was great and I was the assn't presiding minister (no elders back then). So I had invested pretty heavily in being a JW. I was also very familar with Bethel and met many of the people responsible for keeping the JW's a 19 century religion.

Enough said, out some 45 years have lived a very very rewarding life. Very happy that I don't have to live in a paradise new world with those morons.

Another Newbie

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