The Elders want to meet with me ... (Judicial Meeting) (page 5)

rip van winkle

Was anelder said: Actually I wonder more what this says about you wanting back in? Are you out of your head?

Was anelder, did you read he has children in and he wants to get them out? Yes, you're right, it does say a lot about him. He' s a father who loves his children. He is doing whatever it takes in order for them to have a relationship with him. Cuz, the JW's want members of the cult ...I mean congregation to not associate with DF'd ones, family or not.

Because of this Watch Tower rule, his family is broken. His children pay heed to the GB. If Oubliette gets reinstated he can once again enjoy a familial relationship with his kids. The goal is to awaken them. He cannot awaken them unless they have a relationship. They will not have a relationship with Oubliette because he is Disfellowshipped.

Do YOU understand it now?

Aunt Fancy

From what I saw before we left they do not reinstate very quickly now. A teen got into throuble and was very sorry for what she did and they DF's her anyway. She never missed one meeting and had every lesson studied and took notes. It took a year to reinstate her and she didn't even go all the way with the brother. Of course he was reinstated before her!! Another brother was DF's when he was a teen for drinking and he was out for over 20 years and he went to every meeting for a year and they would not reinstate him and he got discouraged and quit going. I think the days are over where you can get DF's and be back in within a few months. Unless it is some rule the elders use in this area. I hope you can get yours done soon so you can move on with your life and do what you can to help your children. If I understood your introduction post it sounded like you let them know you had doubts about the org which they will be skeptical about you and that may push it back further. They may view you as an apostate or trouble maker. They are definitely stalling you and playing games. For some reason they don't have the guts to tell you how they really feel. By the way, you should do some writing because you have a talent for it. Best wishes to you and your family.

mamochan13

Oubliette i- they did the same to me when I asked for reinstatement. They kept me hanging for over 5 months while they played their games. First it was some elder was on vacation. Then they wanted to wait for the COs visit. Then they were too busy. Etc. Etc. They didn't give a s**t that my family was hurting, I was hurting, that I had been faithfully attending every meeting and doing every blasted thing they demanded of me. Their game. Their rules.

Hope it ends for you soon, tho. And good luck on your subsequent fade.

Fernando

What about attending a more liberal/friendly congregation to get re-instatement, before heading off to serve (aka fade) where the need is greater (aka a foreign language congregation)?

DesirousOfChange

What about attending a more liberal/friendly congregation to get re-instatement,

The Judicial Committee and Congregation that DFd you, is the JC that has to reinstate you. If you move, the new Elders in the new Cong must contact the original JC. The original JC still holds all the power over you.

Doc

flipper

OUBILETTE- Sorry to hear you are going through this. I think Tech 49 who is a former elder himself gives some really great advice on pg. 2. And Aunt Fauncy brings up a very valid point as well about any conversations you may have inadvertently had with your young adult children- if THEY think that what you've said to them is in any way " dangerous ", " apostate - leaning ", etc. - what your kids may have done behind your back is go and voiced their " concerns " to the elders in your congregation - and THAT may be leading to some delays as well because the elders are listening either to your kids, or maybe even your JW ex-wife if they've talked to her as well.

From one that's been in a similar situation ( and you know my story as we've talked ) I had not only one of my daughters ratting me out talking to the elders, but my fanatic JW ex-wife ALSO went and stuck her nose into my life YEARS after we had been divorced 8 years previously ! There are some people who just like to stir things up for other people. They aren't settled , unless WE are unsettled in our lives- if you get my drift. It's like they wanna pay us back for any pain that happened from a divorce. Pretty petty , but that's how some people are.

Hey man. Hang in there. It's all you can do. Remember we are here as frinds and a support to you guy. Peace out, mr. Flipper

UnConfused

Win them over without a word.

LostGeneration

Unfortunately its their sandbox and they decide who gets to play in it. I know you are in no position to tell them off, but is funny that they ignore the advice of their own Elder manual, which states that there should not take a long time to meet/decide on your fate (sorry its on my work computer so I cant give you an exact reference point)

Hang tight, do what you have to do. In the long run it will be your victory over this evil cult.

snare&racket

This website is well known to elders, be careful as it would not be hard to link your comments and someone trying to get reinstated.

Good luck to you, and kudos to you for not giving up on your kids and walking away ;) x

snare x

nugget

This is just to reinforce to you how utterly unimportant your life and concerns are to them. The fact that your family and friends are distanced from you whilst theirs are not is irrelevent to them and the fact that they can share fellowship with other witnesses and you cannot is of no consequence. Whilst you are in this state of sin you are less than nothing so unless there is no sport on TV or something they would rather do then this meeting is an inconvenience to them rather than a necessity. The fact that they keep postponing may be that they are not going to reinstate you and wish to avoid the unpleasantness.

It tells me it is better to walk away than wait forever.

The Elders want to meet with me ... (Judicial Meeting)

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