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7 graphs that prove America is overrated
by Simon 152 Replies latest social current
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villagegirl
So, villagegirl, you've adjusted your description of the US from innocent colony to fellow imperialist?
What ? if you think anybody who took over any indigenous lands are imperialist.
Generally the term is used to described the ambitions of aggressors who conquer established States,
Like Germany's ambition to rule the World, and Japan's ambitions to rule China and the
Pacific region and whatever other countries they could overthrow.
I think America saw itself as a refuge from oppressive forms of governments and
monarchy and wanted to create a new kind of State, government of the people,
by the people and for the people.
The fundamental concepts of Jean Jacque Rousseau, formed the basis of American
and all modern political,sociological and educational thought.
The Bill of Rights is a revolutionary document, especially for the time it was written.
Canada has a lot of social problems.
Racism is very much present here and as you say, denied.
I think the Chinese were favored for mass immigration because they were
perceived as white skinned. They come from a completely oppressive political philosophy,
the concepts of democracy are better understood by South Americans and Africans.
And Canada favor Sikhs over Hindus if you count numbers in this country as anything.
Certain races have been stereotyped with negative myths and the Chinese are
stereotyped with absurd myths about their intelligence and education.
Nothing has been invented in China for one thousand years.
All the present economic boom in China is because Western Corporations
accepted what amounts to slave labor from the controlling hierarchy in China.
They had no electricity across China, no sewage systems, not even modern
bridges or roads, but the western corporations transplanted entire factories into the major cities
the only places that had electricity,and set up a system that required only bodies,
hands doing assembly work at $1 a day, with the slave labor sleeping and eating in the factory
24 hours a day and they never get to go home except once a year.
No other country could deliver this kind of control. The products are western designed,
the methods were western, the supplies and machinery are western, but
most importantly the transportation, warehousing and distribution to shopping Malls
was already in place waiting to be flooded with Chinese made goods, in the West.
What the corporations did not foresee or care about was
the devastating effect this had economically on us in the West.
When you kill your own customers by taking their jobs, you kill the economy.
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Simon
Love the Lewis Black video - I've been trying to find out what he was called for ages after I saw him on TV and didn't make a note. Love his delivery.
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barry
We all have opinions an preferences on where we would like to live but I don't see the USA as one that I would easily disregard as a place to live.
The graphs do give some insight on deficiencies that would be experianced if one was to live in the USA but then there are far worse countries Rwanda has more women in Government so does that make it a better country. Here in Australia we have a women prime minister that will lose her job soon or will be voted out at the soon comming election.
The countries that require a vacation are USA and China. Everyone now should now know that China is the workshop of the world and no one can compete with her but that is because the Chinese work cheaper than anyone else. This will bring benefits to China above what she would otherwise have. Benefits to workers comes at a cost of jobs. Every country has to be compeditive because so the USA may be more so than many others that give better benefits to their workers. In the sixties workers in England worked for an extra hour every working day to make their country more compeditive and address their BOP problems.
Australians say that 'Australia is the lucky country' and I would agree with that however when Australia experianced BOP problems we changed our mind and said 'Australia is the smart country'in an effort for us to use our brains more in making us more compeditive.
One valid critisism of America is they left the Empire and kicked out the British and sent our poor king crazy but we just might forgive them for that in another 100 or so.
According to these graphs a person may easily think many other countries are better than the US and as a result be seriously misinformed. Barry
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sooner7nc
I had a math Professor last year who taught me a great lesson. She gave us an example of a graph that showed some fact or other (I forget what it was on because the important part was what came next) that suppossedly proved or disproved some point. The point was that by manipulating the way the graph was layed out you could change the view that others had of the information it contained. To paraphrase she warned us not to be taken in by fancy graphs because they could easily be made to say bullshit that didn't exist.
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Glander
Of course you are correct, sooner. Graphs and statistics are very accomodating to those who have an ax to grind. The very title of this thread is nonsensical. "overrated" ? By what rating authority? Oh, that's right, the people who put together the 7 graphs!
Simon, your anti US hang up is old news. I was born and raised here and I don't feel the need to defend the country in general. It has a lot wrong with it but hopefully it will get better.
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FlyingHighNow
Sadly, I agree with you, Simon. I will read the article, but I can tell you already, I agree.
I did a thread about Sweden and the benefits they get for their high taxes. Some Swedes commented on it.
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still thinking
I was born and raised here and I don't feel the need to defend the country in general. It has a lot wrong with it but hopefully it will get better.
People have to actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...to make it better. Just hoping never achieved anything.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you..LOL (that will be just as effective as hoping)...that the data the government collects on innocent Americans and the rest of the world doesn't bite everyone in the ass. They are not collecting all this personal data for no reason..that would just make them stupid.
The government is breaking your own constitution...and no one seems to give a rats arse. Where are the mass protests about this?
I think America is a beautiful country, and that people are just people no matter where they live or were born. And the government is as corrupt as many others. I don't think America is worse or better than anywhere else. Our current NZ govenment is just as crap...and our people are being just as apathetic.
But some things that are done in the name of freedom and security are not freeing or securing. In fact, quite the opposite.
I have no problem with America...it's just a country.. but I do have an issue with the American government interfering with other nations governments and laws. Like the TPP ( Trans-Pacific Partnership) ...more government secrets...more crap and control and manipulation of people and other countries. How many people are even aware of how big this issue is?
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humbled
It is totally rotten what is being done in the name of security. They'll take down Ed Snowden if they can--If we let them. But we have tolerated the School of the Americas to operate for years here exporting human rights crimes to South America. Wake up. Wake up!
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jgnat
For villagegirl,
You think the US has not had ambitions to take Mexico and Canada? I would like to thank the US and its military ambitions for rallying Canadians to create a single independent nation, and to build our railroad.
Yes, the United States was founded on great ideals. The story of its birth gives the country identity and national pride. It is tragic to see those ideals trampled in the interests of national security. Can a nation truly call itself free if 743 per 100,000 are incarcerated, the highest in the world?
I predict the intelligence and drive of the Chinese will help that nation forge ahead of the United States in the coming years. Have you heard of their land acquisitions, where they are buying the resources that are depleted in their own country? They are creating business partnerships in Africa, a financial arrangement preferred in that continent over aid.
By the way, I want the San Juan islands back. (Sir James Douglas)