by DATA-DOG 100 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
If someone says_____
' My minister said that Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets '
You might reply : ' May I ask, did he show you anything in the Bible that descibes what we believe or do and that says people of this sort would be false prophets? ( Then use one or more points outlined on pages 132-136)'_____Reasoning book page 137
Warning : Jus' don't use Duet 18: 21-22. There's a reason the society left that out in that chapter . I'll blow our cover !!!!!!
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They can't say they're not prophets and then turn right around and say they're the only 'true channel of communication from God',. Once they claim this then every thing they say is subject to the highest scrutiny and we have to call them on it every time.
Its as if someone claims their God himself but when asked to preform a miracle says 'Im not God today'
Remember it's not a lie if you believe it.
AndDontCallMeShirley:
"In 1942 the "faithful and discreet slave" guided by Jehovah's unerring spirit made known that the democracies would win World War II and that there would be a United Nations organization set up." Watchtower 1960 Jul 15 p. 444
See my first post on this thread for a fuller understanding of the Society's view of how WWII would end. They had all their bases covered.
Take Care
Out of the mouth of the dragon: You positively will not die.
Out of the mouth of THE False Prophet: Millions Now Living Will Never Die.
Its the same thing!
Are both of these expressions unclean (false)?
Revelation 16:13-14
And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.
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A lot of useful info was compiled on this thread (when I was being an apologist).. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/219689/1/The-Watchtower-is-NOT-a-false-prophet
But, has the Watchtower learned from its past mistakes? It's shocking to read that in the May 1, 1999, Watchtower, the Society repeated the same false prophecy regarding the end of this system that it made in 1920.
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Does anyone remember the title of last year's "Special Talk" given worldwide after the Memorial?
"Is It Later Than You Think?"
This was the same exact title of an Awake mag. .....in 1968.
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the "last days" in 1914, Jesus foretold: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur."-Matt. 24:34. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!" Awake!1969 May 22 p.15
The Nations Shall Know...
ENTRANCED HEARERS, BUT NOT DOERS
32 As is well known, the modern Ezekiel class, the anointed remnant of Jehovah's Christian witnesses, are a subject of much discussion among the people inside as well as outside of Christendom. But the people in general react toward them just the same as Ezekiel's fellow exiles in Babylon reacted toward him and his prophesying,before the news of Jerusalem's destruction broke upon them with stunning impact. Jehovah observed the exiles and said:
33 "And as for you, O son of man, the sons of your people are speaking with one another about you beside the walls and in the entrances of the houses, and the one has spoken with the other, each one with his brother, saying, 'Come, please, and hear what the word is that is going forth from Jehovah.' And they will come in to you, like the coming in of people, and sit before you as my people; and they will certainly hear your words but these they will not do, for with their mouth they are expressing lustful desires and after their unjust gain is where their heart is going. And, look! you are to them like a song of sensuous loves, like one with a pretty voice and playing a stringed instrument well. And they will certainly hear your words, but there are none doing them. And when it comes true-look! it must come true-they will also have to know that a prophet himself had proved to be in the midst of them."-Ezekiel 33:30-33.34
Whether beside walls casting cooling shade or in the doorways of their homes or elsewhere, people are gossiping and conversing at times after the Ezekiel class and the "great crowd" of their Christian coworkers come around, going from house to house preaching God's Messianic kingdom and the "conclusion of the system of things." (Matthew 24:3-14; Revelation 7:9-17) Many persons, even many who are still related to Christendom, will pass around nice compliments about these Christian witnesses of Jehovah. They may even come to the large public meetings of these witnesses or arrange for a home Bible study to be carried on with them and invite neighbors or relatives to join them in the study. They like the tone and directness of the divine message and respectfully listen to it. But they leave the matter hanging in suspense; they come to no energizing favorable decision toward Jehovah. They merely like to be entertained with a Biblically supported message. Their concern is not to appear outright irreligious, open to the charge of being atheistic communists.
35 They may be disturbed by the cry of Christendom that Jehovah's Christian witnesses are "false prophets!" They may not be fully convinced that these are true spokesmen for Jehovah the Sovereign Lord. To let themselves come to the conclusion that these were authentic spokesmen would oblige them to do the positive things about it. This would mean for them to stop holding on to lustful desire and going wholeheartedly after unjust gain.
36 None of us should want to be like these indecisive, unresponding ones! Better it is to know now, rather than too late, that there is an authentic prophetic class of Christians among us, and to accept and act upon the Bible message, "not as the word of men, but, just as it truthfully is, as the word of God." (1 Thessalonians 2:13) Concerning the message faithfully delivered by the Ezekiel class Jehovah positively states that it "must come true." He asseverates that those who wait undecided until it does "come true" "will also have to know that a prophet himself had proved to be in the midst of them." (Ezekiel 33:33) Such belated knowledge, however, will not mean salvation for them, for it will find their hearts and their ways to be unchanged.
37 What is to be gained by hesitating and doubting to the end that Jehovah can raise up and has raised up a genuine "prophet" within our generation? Certainly it will gain for no one the divine favor and protection needed during the speedily approaching "great tribulation" upon Christendom and the rest of Babylon the Great. If our course is to be that of wisdom and of faith, then, with Bible in hand, we will heed the warning of Jehovah's true watchman and will take refuge where Jehovah indicates in His Word. Then, when Jehovah's prophetic watchman gets the report that Christendom has been stricken down, we, together with the faithful watchman, will continue to live on through the destruction of the whole world empire of false religion and of its secular paramours, with what prospect before us? Ah, with the prospect of enjoying all the unspeakably good things that Jehovah has in store for his worshipers in the righteous new system of pure religion.
Review Questions:
23. When the report of the destruction of Christendom world wide comes, what will it authenticate about the anointed Ezekiel class, and who will be held accountable for all the loss of life then?
36. What better course, unlike that of those people, should we take now, and of what value will the knowledge be that is forced upon people when the thing spoken comes true?
Reasoning Book page 136
" Jehovah's Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets." The Governing Body claim to be the " Ezekiel class" proclaiming a "divine message!" They claim to be a " a genuine prophet within our generation!" GOD himself "asseverates", or declares, confirms, contends,proclaims,swears, and testifies it to be so!!
ADCMS, I remember when I learned that the title of the " Special Talk " was just recycled garbage. WOW! It really leveled up my awareness. Thanks for posting that, It can't be shared enough!
KNOW JEHOVAH.. chapter 12, page 216 [ WT CD Library 2011]
JEHOVAH'S "SWORD" AGAINST "ALL THOSE OF FLESH"
9 Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom. The ancient "soil of Israel" pictures the realm in which Christendom has operated. It pictures the standing and relationship that Christendom has claimed to occupy with God by means of his "new covenant" of which Jesus Christ is the mediator. Now is no time for anyone in Christendom to rely on any righteousness on the basis of his own merits and to boast of his own self-righteousness. Jehovah's "sword" of warfare will cut off from this position that Christendom's clergy claim for her all religionists who depend upon her having an acceptable standing with God.
Interestingly, the phrase " within our twentieth century " appears only once in the CD Library. How long before this reference is removed?
Data-Dog - "Interestingly, the phrase "within our twentieth century" appears only once in the CD Library. How long before this reference is removed?"
Well now that you've reminded them...
