After reading this thread, the GB seem almost normal.
Musings about different types of atheist!
by Seraphim23 304 Replies latest jw friends
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paranoia agent
snare&racket: wrote Theory in science has a very different meaning, anyone saying differently is either lying or ignorant to the truth, a scientific theory is a body of evidence,. just think, if a hypothesis like atomic theory or evolution wasn't true you wouldn't have ANY evidence for it, or to put it another way it is impossible to have evidence for evolution if it didn't happen.
adamah: wrote: Theories explain facts (i.e. confirmed observations), but they aren't facts themselves. Even "facts"are subject to change.
‘In the most basic sense, a scientific fact is an objective and verifiable observation, in contrast with a hypothesis or theory, which is intended to explain or interpret facts.’ -^ Gower, Barry (1997). Scientific Method: A Historical and Philosophical Introduction. Routledge. ISBN 0-415-12282-1. –
Right so let me alter the question, are scrientific theories prone to changes?
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paranoia agent
I asked: If god asked you to kill your son would you do it?
Seraphim23 replied: No I wouldn’t
Then you are not a theist
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Seraphim23
I believe in God paranoia agent, but I don’t think God would need a dead boy, and if he did, God could kill my son himself. He wouldn’t need me to do it for him. If I was asked by God to kill my son as a test of faith, I would offer myself instead. However, the fact I know that God could do it himself if he wanted to would answer the faith question anyway and if that wasn’t sufficient my own sacrifice would be, as there is no greater love than if a man die on behalf of another. So you are wrong about me not being a theist.
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paranoia agent
Right but I never asked that if god needed a dead boy, or if god could do it himself, what I asked was if god asked you to kill your own son would you do it?
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Seraphim23
I know what you asked and what you didn’t ask and I answered your question. If God asked ME to kill my son, I wouldn’t do it because I couldnt. Nasty question that one.
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paranoia agent
Right, so you disagree with the biblical passage that god asked Abraham to kill his son as a sine for obedience?
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Seraphim23
I don’t believe that passage is literal. However the bible is not the means by which the word theist means what it does. However the bible does say to test the spirits to see where they originate and I suggest murdering children is not one of the fruits of the spirit. So such a command would fail the test.
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paranoia agent
OK, so what biblical scripture are you basing on your interpretation that the Abraham passage was not literal?
Also do you consider that the killings conducted by the army of Moses and others was also not literal?