Health care for everyone was considered in the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 25. The US was one country that did not ratify the 'Right To Health' section.
We have a right to health.
So are Republicans now openly terrorists?
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Glander
We have a right to health.
That's just naive. Maybe as you mature you will realize how silly that is.
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Marvin Shilmer
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“Surely, Marvin, American hospital costs should come down to be comparable with other developed countries.”
The local hospital board I sit on thinks otherwise.
What you suggest is something I’ll believe when I see it.
I hope you’re right.
Marvin Shilmer
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minimus
Like I said, money will be an issue. Libtards can't understand this Until they THEYare affected.
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jgnat
Marvin, Alberta is represented by a single health care group. That's many, many hospitals. A corporation of this size can demand bulk discounts. The fractured system in the US can't.
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designs
Environmental Protection Index lists Iceland and Switzerland as #1,2 with the US 61st. Humans have a right to clean air, water and land.
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designs
Ann I can't believe we lost Romney was on Fox News selling her new cookbook and opin'd that if Mitt were president we would not be in a government shutdown.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
The ACA does little or nothing to actually control costs. Marvin's sentiments are not all that unreasonable.
Proponents of ACA clearly state that the singular goal of the law is to expand coverage (get more people into the system by force of law), not cost control. The law focuses on who will pay and how much but does not ask why medical costs in the USA are so ridiculously high in the first place and what can be done to lower them.
To jgnat's point, the ACA also exacerbates the problem of soaring costs because it actually dilutes market share rather than consolidate cost-saving measures like the Canadian system does.
Finally, the idea that the uninsured are somehow bogging the system down while raising everyone's costs, and that ACA will correct this "problem" by insuring them, is a strawman. Hospitals openly admit that their indigent/charity cases are less than .5% of their costs- barely a blip on the radar.
http://moneymorning.com/2013/06/24/why-the-obamacare-law-cant-stop-soaring-healthcare-costs/#
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Marvin Shilmer
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“Marvin, Alberta is represented by a single health care group. That's many, many hospitals. A corporation of this size can demand bulk discounts. The fractured system in the US can't.”
Jgnat,
I sit on a local hospital board. But this hospital is part of a much larger medical group of more than 30 hospitals, and even more clinics. The local board I sit on basically oversees local fund raising initiatives (primary duty), employee dispute resolutions (rare duty), and decisions regarding pursuit of patient past due accounts (regular duty, and a tough one).
The downstream feed we get from our corporate board is to expect cost increases. This corporate board is made up of hospital administrators, doctors and, of course, lawyers.
As I said before, I hope you’re right.
Marvin Shilmer
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Glander
A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.
Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%
Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%
Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%
Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%
Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18
Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%
And now for the last statistic:
National Health Insurance?
U.S. NO
England YES
Canada YES