good fiind Glander.
The hip replacement issue was a big one for a friend of mine.
So are Republicans now openly terrorists?
by Simon 369 Replies latest social current
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DogGone
Glander,
Does that article reference the source of those statistics? Perhaps, like so much of this debate, they are counting on confirmation bias to avoid scrutiny.... (http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=54884)
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You can help me find the source of the information from the UN "International Health Organization" er.... maybe WHO? If so, this is very critical data and should definitely inform the discussion. I’d like to know if the stats are inclusive or only include those with health insurance.
I can tell you that in some places wait times in Canada for specialists are often unacceptable. We have had a national focus on this for a decade and the results are showing. You may find the summary page from this document published by the Canadian Institute for Health Information to be informative: https://secure.cihi.ca/free_products/HCIC2012-FullReport-ENweb.pdf
This article has a comprehensive discussion about wait times broken down by province, by procedure, and by comparison against target: http://www.waittimealliance.ca/media/2012reportcard/WTA2012-reportcard_e.pdf
To your point, more improvement is needed in Canada. Anecdotally, though, I can tell you that two weeks ago one of my staff needed to see an MRI after a scary episode and was in within a few days. Two days later he was back for another round. However, that is relevant only in my particular corner of our big country.
Indeed, "Excessive wait times for magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) studies are a major problem in the Canadian healthcare system." ref: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2653696/
That being said, our wait times are equitable regardless of wealth and our visibility into them is growing. Look at this website from Alberta where you can dive down into wait time stats for various procedures by urgency and region: http://waittimes.alberta.ca
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Giordano
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=54884
The Investor's Business Daily has no article with this data.
"There is no
such entity as the United Nation's 'International' Health Organization.
Presumably the author was attempting to claim the source of the 'data' came from
the U.N.'s WORLD Health Organization.
None of these statistics can be
gathered from the data on the WHO's website. Especially something as specific as
a hip replacement.
The data is seemingly in direct conflict with data on
the WHO website/survey.
And my final reason why this must be fake...its
plastered all over the right-wing blogosphere being touted as real data. It
does in fact have quite a following.
The version I received from my hard
right-wing grandfather in law has the reference to the Investor's Business Daily
stripped out (only barely) but none of the people forwarding it on and on have
bothered to notice that there is no 'International' Health Organization. -
Simon
Like I said, money will be an issue. Libtards can't understand this Until they THEYare affected.
Unlike Republicans who don't care about anyone else and how they are affected?
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Simon
Re: the hip replacement stats ... stats can be so misleading if you only take them at face value.
How is "needing hip replacement" defined? Are only people with sufficient health cover diagnosed? Self / pre selecting figures ...
Also, seniors needing hip replacement tend to be older ... how many who only live to the age where they would need this do so because they have health cover? How many die early don't? Again, self / pre selecting numbers ...
No of MRI scanners per million people will be different for countries that have more concentrated populations. When people are spread out then coverage is spread too which tends towards more 'things' per person. Fire truck coverage will no doubt be similar.
Finally, you don't provide a link to look at the survey. Is it one of those "turns out we only asked 20 people inside a private Seniors home ..."
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Pterist
***So are Republicans now openly terrorists?****
Yes !
Al-Qaeda could never do what the baggers have done. With the help of the Saudi-Aussie TV media aka FAUX , you got yourself a nice setup for dominionism ! PT;)
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Berengaria
Except that it's bogus. It's one of those mass Emails that was going around during the health care debates (2009?). There is no "United Nations International Health Organization".
Oooops, should have hit submit before getting my coffee!
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minimus
No, Simon, the "terrorists" care about fiscal responsibilities. You and your crew just don't understand how the Democrats' out of control spending is wreaking havoc here in America. And for what it's worth: There were always a number of Canadians that would brag that they had "free" health care but if something was real serious, they would want to come to any of our prestigious Boston hospitals.
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Berengaria
Like I said, money will be an issue. Libtards can't understand this Until they THEYare affected.
Unlike Republicans who don't care about anyone else and how they are affected? My quote option isn't coming up
The thing is Simon that it is actually Blue states that pay more in tax dollars and Red states that recieve more in benefits. So essentially I am helping to support Minimus
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Berengaria
No, Simon, the "terrorists" care about fiscal responsibilities. You and your crew sound just don't understand how the Democrats' out of control spending is wreaking havoc here in America.
Ummmm not actually true Min. If you look at numbers going back decades, the reality is that the Democrats have been more fiscally responsible.