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DazedAndConfused

Yes, that is the story I was thinking about. But where I got Ticonderoga is beyond me. haha. But anyway, how I had first heard about this case was when Ross and his wife came to my house for lunch one Sunday when he came to our congregation to give the public talk. I knew that they had left not long after but I never was told what prompted it. I got in touch with Freda last year and we corresponded for a little while. Basically, she said they started having doubts but never told the reason why. I don't know if you keep in contact with them but they are doing great. They had a son and a daughter. The son died a few years back and the daughter has left the "troof". They are such a wonderful family.

bjc2012

Lisa,

When do you plan to go home this summer? I am thinking of visiting my son but haven't decided exactly when I'll do this.

bjc

annalice

yes i knew the Allens from Ballston Spa. I was brought up in Ballston aand went to the Ballston spa up until i married in 92 then i attended the rotterdam cong. in schenectady untill we moved back to ballston several years ago. The ballston cong is known throughout the circuit as a really bad cong. they had to send elders in from other congs. to try to clean it up . But that didn't work. I tried going to the saratoga meetings for a while but after going to ballston and seeing all the coruption and backstabing its left me feeling a bit turned off from the whole witness thing. Just this last year a young women i know from saratoga cong. told me how she and two other sisters were molested as young children by an elder. She has just recently gone to the elders on this and was told not to report it beause she would be bringing a bad name onto jehovahs house. They told her to just let it go and to not be so selfish thinking only of herself. I told her about the silentlambs web site and to look it up . She never did she went right back to blindly following what the elders say. So sad.

YHWHWho

DazedAndConfused, "Hey Bro!"...... Yes, that was a very important clue. I apparently missed it. Hey everybody, I'd like you to meet my big sister, DazedAndConfused. Be carefull though, she's a tough on. At my daughters graduation party my stepson had some pretty big beer muscles going, and DazedAndConfused kicked his butt. It was a sight to behold. I was so proud. Anyway, when I found out that your DazedAndConfused, I had to quote Jack Nicholson (sp), from "A Few Good Men". "Well don't I feel like the f _ _ _ _ _ g a _ _ _ _ _ e".
So our little brother is an elder again? Imagine that. Do you think he's really into it, or just doing it to be the focus of our parents world? I often wonder, but just can't decide. Do you suppose he's one of the elders annalice was speaking about in her post? How about Alby? He is an elder, right? Speaking of that, annalice you need to let these young sisters know that reporting these crimes would NOT bring a bad name Jehovah's house. The ACTIONS of this scumbag elder is what brings a bad name on "Jehovah's House". Okay, all sorts of possibilities are running through my head right now, so I must leave now and refocus. I'll check back in later.

DazedAndConfused

annalice, I truly hope that these allegations aren't true for them. But if they are true you have to understand that until they are ready to face it they cannot emotionally confront it. Believe me, as a child molestation victim, at some point most of us get angry enough at what it has done to us inside that we have to let it out. In the meantime the only thing I can suggest to you as a friend is to just be there for them. And also very important is not to "push" the silentlambs site. You have told her about it, she knows it's there. If she (or they) bring it up at another time by all means go back to it. Just be a friend, be gentle, be understanding, lend an ear, shoulder,...etc. You sound like a good friend, keep it up.

DazedAndConfused

YHWHWhy, I wanted to make this a seperate post since it is more of a fluff thing. Anyway, thanks for the recounting of the party thing. haha.

About our dear brother...hmmm, I'm not sure if this is really in him or not. To some degree I think he is but, and this is just my opinion, I think he does it for our parents, for his wife, because he loves the "glamour" of it all. Also, an interesting point is that his wife is used as quite the elderette. She was taken on sheperding calls while I was there, and she was doing more in a blood issue case than the brothers in the liason committee. Quite a little woman there. ugh. I know that when I was there last summer he (our brother) couldn't answer most of what I asked him. I noticed later that the most basic thing I asked him he had to look up on the WT CD. But then again, it is too easy to be an elder, all the info is handed to you on a silver platter. When they give talks now it is given to them as an outline...all they have to do is add enough to make it more lively.

As far as the molestation thing in anna's post...I am bursting at the seams. I have too many questions and waaaayyyy too many faces flashing in front of my eyes. haha.

Yes, Alby is an elder but I'm not sure if it is in Ballston or Saratoga.

annalice

Alby was in ballston but is now in the saratoga cong.

YHWHWho

As far as the molestation thing in anna's post...I am bursting at the seams. I have too many questions and waaaayyyy too many faces flashing in front of my eyes.

I hear you. That's why I bugged out of here earlier. I was getting a bit DazedAndConfused. lol God, I slay me!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, I'm a bit calmer now. Although I am a bit scatterbrained. I believe maybe your right on target with our brother. Although it's tough for me to really get a true picture of things since I'm so far out of the loop. Let me ask you a question. Do you ever feel like you have no sense of your own identity? Is this feeling normal? Okay, I'm back to being DazedAndConfused, so I must go for a bit. I'll be back.

YHWHWho

annalice, Alby was my best friend while we were growing up. Our friendship is the only thing I miss about my JW life.

DazedAndConfused

YHWYWhy, I guess I am not exactly sure what you mean by your question. If you mean am I "comfortable in my own skin" or comfortable with the choices I have made since leaving. Then the only thing I can say is...it's getting better. I am almost there. This board has helped me so much in that respect. I have dealt with the guilt of leaving because of family and I have felt so much guilt over your family. Now, I am somewhat coming to grips with it. Is this what you were asking?

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