brazen conduct, dissensions

by hoser 40 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Barrold Bonds
    Barrold Bonds

    Yeah I was thinking about that yesterday. Loose conduct is stuff of a sexual nature. Brazen conduct is like, almost anything. So they literally changed the meaning of a scripture to mean something completely different.

  • jemba
    jemba

    The english language that I know speaks more often of 'loose', as in loose woman and loose morals than it does of the word 'brazen'. It is a change to suit themselves.

  • steve2
    steve2

    One can humbly submit to the loving instructions of Jehovah's organization or brazenly question them. There are no other options. Which camp are you in?

  • Zoos
    Zoos

    The Reasoning book tells us to check several other translations in order to weed out sloppy or "weak" translation work.

    It is true that some translations of the Bible adhere more closely to what is in the original languages than others do. Modern paraphrase Bibles have taken liberties that at times alter the original meaning. Some translators have allowed personal beliefs to color their renderings. But these weaknesses can be identified by comparison of a variety of translations.

  • Splash
    Splash

    The whole point of changing Loose Conduct to Brazen Conduct was to enlarge on the sexual element, losing that constraint.

    The argument goes, the original greek word did not just refer to something of a sexual nature but included a disposition or attitude.
    That is now reflected in Brazen Conduct.

    Splash.

  • steve2
    steve2

    If a brother or sister furtively and in private with consenting adult partners engages in sexual misconduct, how can that be construed as "brazen conduct" by the strict dictionary definition of the word "brazen"? Just asking.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Contention is a heated argument or disagreement.

    Dissent is disagreeing with a generally held viewpoint.

    Can you see why they have changed contention to dissent?

  • konceptual99
    konceptual99

    The society has been throwing around the phrase brazen conduct for some time, years in fact. It's been in the elders' book and other publications. I suspect it's been in BoE letters as well when related to judicial matters.

    Loose conduct is too geared towards matters such as sexual conduct, drunkeness etc. Brazen conduct can be more easily associated with a wider range of rebellious behaviour. That suits the WTS, especially when related to those veering towards anti-WTS views.

    All that has happened is that they have thrown it into the Bible now so that no one can claim it's not a Biblical phrase.

    Another loophole closed.

  • 3rdgen
    3rdgen

    Hamsterbait, EXACTLY! The obvious purpose of changing contensions to dissensions is to have a Biblical excuse to tighten control.

  • flipper
    flipper

    In all actuality the governing body is guilty of brazen conduct themselves. All they are doing is the psychological thing called " projection". Since they are guilty of doing it- " so are our members " type thing. That and control of course as some mentioned

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