by confusedandalone 68 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
God and gods only exist in the minds of believers
That is the plain fact of it
something that does not exist can not do anything for anyone
And after my 25 years in the WT!
unless a god of similar comes down and has a word with no human will convince me otherwise!!
fade to grey: seems like a fade to black, sorry your so strong in your disbelief
Confusedandalone: ...if you really want people to have faith and to be able to know absolute truth why not perform miracles. Why not make the bible a blank book and when you open it, it addresses you personally in writing of course.
Oh, where to start?
First, miracles don’t prove anything. According to John in the book of Revelation, many would be misled in the latter days by agents of the Adversary performing miracles. If you want to understand how these miracles will be used to deceive, read Joel Richardson’s book, The Islamic Antichrist. It’s an astounding account of how Christian/Jewish eschatology is almost identical to Islamic eschatology. The only difference is whether the major players are good guys or bad guys.
In other words, to Muslims, the great caliph of the last days will be the Mahdi, who, with Jesus Christ, will convert the world and recapture Jerusalem for Islamic rule. The Mahdi will put down the Jewish threat and “Jesus” will perform great miracles and explain to Christians how they’ve been deceived by early Christian writers who got everything wrong. To Christians, the Mahdi will be great “beast” or “antichrist,” while the Islamic Jesus will be the “false prophet,” both spoken of by John in Revelation. In both accounts, the Mahdi/Beast will enter into a 7-year peace agreement with Israel during which the Jews will be able to offer sacrifices to God. The Islamic version doesn’t mention whether the peace treaty will run its course, but Bible writers say that it will only last three and a half years. Then the Beast will turn viciously on the Jews and bring total war against them in a battle called “Armageddon.” To the Muslims it will be a time of total victory against the Jews. As Richardson notes, of the Mahdi, two Shi’a Islamic scholars write:
A figure more legendary than that of the Mahdi, the Awaited Saviour, has not been seen in the history of mankind. The threads of the world events have woven many a fine design in human life but the pattern of the Mahdi stands high above every other pattern. He has been the vision of the visionaries in history. He has been the dream of all the dreamers of the world. For the ultimate salvation of mankind he is the Pole Star of hope on which the gaze of humanity is fixed….
Another Muslim scholar writes: “The Mahdi will establish right and justice in the world and eliminate evil and corruption. He will fight against the enemies of the Muslims who would be victorious.”
But to John the Revelator, the Mahdi is controlled by Satan. According to Richardson:
Some of the various names that Scripture assigns to him are “the Beast” (Revelation 13:4), “the abomination that causes desolation” (Matthew 24:15), “the desolator” (Daniel 9:27), “the man of sin,” “the man of lawlessness,” “the son of destruction” (2 Thessalonians 2), “the little horn” (Daniel 7:8), “the Assyrian” (Micah 5:5, Isaiah 10:5, 14:25), “the oppressor,” “the king of Babylon” (Isaiah 14), and even the mysterious “Gog” (Ezekiel 38:1, Revelation 20:7). There are several other names that Scripture uses to refer to the Antichrist as well.
My point is, both God and Satan can work miracles. Both can send emissaries clothed as “angels of light.” Many will be deceived by the Beast and the False Prophet because they will be able to perform great miracles. What Jehovah's Witnesses teach about Armageddon is complete and total nonsense. They know nothing of Christian or Jewish eschatology.
Another point is that how can we live by faith when there are miracles? We are sent to Earth to be tried and tested. It’s rough, horrible at times and fearful; however, it’s necessary. As the Father could not remove the “bitter cup” from His only begotten Son, He cannot provide us with heirship without our going through earth life.
Finally, we don’t know the mechanics of miracles. If you went back in time to ancient Egypt at the time of Abraham and showed them a 1000-lumen flashlight that could also flash red, green and blue (like the Nitecore SRT7), you might be worshiped as a god. On the other hand, if you took the same flashlight back to the late 1400s in Europe, you might be burned at the stake as an agent of Satan!
So look not for miracles, for as Jesus said, only the wicked and adulterous seek for a sign. The reason? By the way they lead their lives, they are not worthy of being led by the Holy Spirit and are consequently left unto themselves. So they constantly seek for miraculous signs to lead them.
Why is Cofty so filled with just mean spirited hatred
for random anything and what exactly is his world view?
from cofty I see nothing but, anti-life, anti-love, anti-hope.
wallowing in what seems to be depression and a level of
thinking we see in nine year old boys, or two year old's
having temper tantrums.
COnfused: Old Testament God says eye for and eye like a raving lunatic
New Testament God want s you to turn the other cheek.
There is no such thing as Old Testament GOD and New Testament GOD. He is the same GOD from beginning to end, The Alpha and The Omega. Jesus preached in order to prepare people for The Kingdom of GOD. If GOD still had His kings on the earth, nothing would have changed. However, these kings were not effectuating GOD's laws properly, as you can read about in the bible. GOD's laws will be enforced when Christ arrives in The Kingdom. If you choose to sin, you will die. There will be no wickedness in The Kingdom of GOD......PERIOD ! ! !
E.
Village Girl:
Why is Cofty so filled with just mean spirited hatred
for random anything and what exactly is his world view?
from cofty I see nothing but, anti-life, anti-love, anti-hope.
wallowing in what seems to be depression and a level of
thinking we see in nine year old boys, or two year old's
having temper tantrums.
Ha Ha ! ! !
Estephan
You are wrong VG. Accepting a wonderful life minus god is not anti love.
hope. .............. ... faith .................. & love
The kids are a wee bit upset with the tone of the thread
it sucks to have your deusions dashed doesn't it? Hence all the hostility of belivers seen here...
Oh well, better a dose of reality (Santa doesnt exist) than to pretend you have anything real to offer to the discussion eh (Santas sled actually travels at the speed of light).
Norad tracks Santa every year, and he appears to travel at the speed of the rotation of the earth, dropping gifts down chimneys about the same time everywhere he is believed in. who says there are no miracles.
ignorance is bliss.
blessed are those that have bliss.
