by tec 160 Replies latest members private
How is this different from being a spirit medium?
As my Lord said during our (yours and mine) last conversation, a spirit medium channels the dead.
Christ is alive.
In addition to the above, Christ does not NEED a medium speak to anyone, nor does anyone need a medium to speak to Him. There is no mediator between man and Christ. There is one mediator between man and God, and that is Christ.
Peace to you,
tammy
tec:
As my Lord said during our (yours and mine) last conversation, a spirit medium channels the dead.
Christ is alive.
I see, so its a bit like a guru who chanel an indian god or someone who chanel an alien?
a spirit medium channels the dead. Christ is alive.
A spirit medium claims to hear messages from somebody who has died physically but who is believed to be alive in spirit.
You claim to get messages from Jesus who died and who you believe to be alive in spirit.
What's the difference?
tec:
perphaps we having such a different view on god and christ because it seems we may have a differnt chirst. correct me if i wrong here: you believe jesus and the holy spirit are the same person, and two you believe christ is not in bodily form now. is that correct?
Thanks for taking the time to explain. It sounds like your personal Jesus is similar to a persons conscience. "Telling" you whether or not something is okay.
Are you referring to this one line:
He has never lied to me, nor led me wrong. (though i have certainly gotten into messes of my own, by NOT listening to Him)
That is one part, but do you think that this would apply to all the rest that was shared?
Would it be possible for someone to want to hear Jesus very badly, and "hear" him in lots of things that might just be your conscience or inner voice talking to you?
Perhaps (hence the testing that one can do), yes.
But more often, people attribute his voice to their conscience or inner voice.
Our conscience and the Spirit are two different things... though our conscience may bear witness to the Spirit. If we have heard something TO do, and we ignore that voice, then our conscience may bear witness to it (bothering us). Especially when we see the result of having ignored that voice.
But again... the many examples above do not speak to men and women hearing only their consciences.
Peace to you,
tammy
All of this brings to mind Matthew 11:17.
Good reference.
Peace to you,
tammy
Tammy when you get a minute...
a spirit medium channels the dead. Christ is alive. - Tammy
A spirit medium claims to hear messages from somebody who has died physically but who is believed to be alive in spirit.
You claim to get messages from Jesus who died and who you believe to be alive in spirit.
What's the difference?
Do you think Jesus tells different people different things
Different things, sure. (as in different subjects... like Peter is the one who heard about clean/unclean animals... though Paul also heard this being sent TO the Gentiles, and the others would have heard it also; but like how John is the one who received the Revelation)
Contradicting things, no.
Someone is mistaken (perhaps ingrained doctrines and religion, etc... are interfering in hearing the Truth from the source).
or if someone claimed to hear something that contradicted what you'd been told would you assume they were deluding themselves?
I would most likely assume that the other person is mistaken... if they claim something other than what my Lord has told me... though I might also ask again, and test what the other person heard (as written above). I have not had someone share something that passed all those 'tests', that was in contradiction to what my Lord has also said to me.
Seriously, I recently heard a very evangelical sermon where a teenage girl said she'd just left university because Jesus told her too, and she hadn't told her parents yet because they'd paid for her and would be very upset. Somehow this was linked to a text about Ruth and Boaz. I just thought this was crazy. How can you be certain you're not just doing what you want and using Jesus to justify it? Like when George Bush said Jesus told him to go to war.
Well, I suppose as per that girl... the reason she was told to leave might matter. But that really is her business. If she claims something that is not against Christ, that is not against love, that is not against what is written... even though I might not hear it (yet) myself... he who is not against you is for you. I would just 'shelve' it, until such a time as I would hear on the matter. If it is even my business, regarding a personal matter like that.
In any case, test what is claimed against Christ, against love, and against what is written.
George Bush... did not hear that from Christ. Christ never taught his followers to go to war, especially not in his name; just the opposite. (NO more of that... he said to Peter... for he who lives by the sword dies by the sword) In all of the things that Christ taught his followers to do... going to war was not among them. Going to war was in fact against them.
Peace to you,
tammy
Maybe Tammy seemingly believes that Jesus exists in mortal form in Heaven?
If it looks like a spirit medium, quacks like a spirit medium, then she is a spirit medium. Doesn't the Bible speak rather clearly on what to do about those who claim to be spirit mediums? What was the punishment, again? I forgit....
Adam
