The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad 74 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • integ
    integ

    When and if God's day arrives witnesses will be shocked to discover that the God of hate they preach about ...who will "destroy their enemies" will do no such thing.

    They'll be shocked to discover He isn't a God of hate after all and that he loves ALL his creation.

    What a bummer that the witnesses will be robbed of the satisfaction of seeing people who decided not to join their little cult be bludgeoned and destroyed.

    A religion of HATE.

    Love thy neighbor? Only if it's a fellow witness in good standing according to the dictates of a bunch of weird, twisted men.

  • integ
    integ

    When and if God's day arrives witnesses will be shocked to discover that the God of hate they preach about ...who will "destroy their enemies" will do no such thing.

    They'll be shocked to discover He isn't a God of hate after all and that he loves ALL his creation.

    What a bummer that the witnesses will be robbed of the satisfaction of seeing people who decided not to join their little cult be bludgeoned and destroyed.

    A religion of HATE.

    Love thy neighbor? Only if it's a fellow witness in good standing according to the dictates of a bunch of weird, twisted men.

  • jonahstourguide
    jonahstourguide

    Weren't any stumbled where I was, we just wondered what dictionary definition

    he was using, and what else he may have been. Da fing is, there is a considerable amount of disquiet evident within the org today.

    As we all "study our heritage" we become abundantly aware of the increase in human inconsistency

    within the org that has origins going back many decades. And don't come back with the imperfect men like David bit.

    BTW, during the consideration of this article the deafening silence of pioneers' answer's in the hall was eerie.

    jtg

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    When I was in bethel I was shocked to learn that many of those "old-timers" at bethel were receiving social security checks. They were living large off of their bethel seniority and off money coming from "Satan's system" that they never paid into.

  • Brother Mike
    Brother Mike

    The society stated that it would be interesting if it happened in this year. They didn't say god said it would happen in that year. get your facts straight.

  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    Dang Mike. I don't remember you being like this in your previous posts. What happened?

    Back to the OP, I think generally there is a concensus that the GB own everything and live high on the hog. i don't think this is really true. The horde cash yes, but then again so does Apple. The GB members live in similar quarters as the rest of the bunch. They drive the same crappy Crown Vics that alot of companys who provide cars own. Its not a luxurious lifestyle.

    That being said, they have probably never had to care for a family, and they have all of their needs met. Wether you think that is ok depends on how you feel about them already. Many priests, deacons, and pastors as well as their staff receiv e compensation from a church in order to continue their work.

    To the point though, they really don't have the moral high ground to tell others to simplify. I suppose it is just a "hint" at it, but they have trained this group to respond to them as though everything spoken is due to godly authority. So they bear more responsability than they like for other peoples choices. An article about not being caught up materially sharing general principles, is much more useful than telling a pioneer that mo money=mo problems.

    As far as you brother Mike, you have neither the right, nor scriptural task to declare anyone an apostate. You should think twice. This board is full of men and women just like you. People share their thoughts, care for each other, and disagree. Its called normal. In here you are allowed to feel differently than others, and still walk away with dignity. Even though I haven't even been gone a year (and probably will have to go to an assembly this week), I know that even respectful disagreement is cause for discipline.

  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    The society stated that it would be interesting if it happened in this year. They didn't say god said it would happen in that year. get your facts straight.

    Mike......honestly bro. Put the defenses down a bit my man. No they didn't announce the end in 1975 (they did in 1914 and some other times but nevermind that), but do you think they acted faithfully......or discreetly.....in what they did communicate to their flock?

    Stay alive til 75, was the mantra in many places. Why? Because their bethel speakers were going around saying this. Speculation, and artificial "hurry up now" doctrine has no basis in scripture. Peter said the end would come as a thief in the night. Thats it. Contained in that statement is everything you need to know from the bibles perspective about the proper mind set and readiness of the Christian.

  • Etude
    Etude

    Brother Mike: If I were to tell an investor that "it would be interesting" that Twitter was planning an IPO at $26 and that the stock could possibly jump to $42 before it was announced, I be thrown in jail for insider trading. Don't split hairs here. You or the WTBTS can't get away with that and then blame the people who acted on a "tip" for their own foolishness. Whatever they said was more than a suggestion. It was an enticement and it was wrong and obviously just wishful thinking based on some stupid chronology. Of course they weren't going to come out and say it plainly! They'd tried before and were wrong then. They were just being a bit more careful that last time.

  • Brother Mike
    Brother Mike

    I've tried to teach truth, but you can't do it with people who won't except the truth.

  • jonahstourguide
    jonahstourguide

    Brother Mike..... lets be calm..... What is Truth that "people wont except" ??????

    I never studied grammar but sumptin don make sense !!

    jtg

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