a blessing? no i don't think i would say a blessing. i think it demonstrated my faith.
I gave up my job to pioneer, did you? Matt 6.33 did Jehovah provide?
by KateWild 52 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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AlphaMan
alphaman: what did the 'zealous elder' do for a living.
I'll give you 2 guesses.
Answer: Janitorial
P.S. He's probably still doing janitorial and the occasional aux pioneer, while I've done very well in my work career, which also deals in chemicals.
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KateWild
1. Window cleaner
2. Car valeter
Likely managing a chain in either profession
Kate xx
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Julia Orwell
Years ago i had a friend who regular aux pioneered. Later on he said he only remembers being constantly hungry. He couldn't afford to feed himself when pioneering. Another boy went pioneeri g even though his elder dad said he should get a job first to pay his bills. Well, he couldn't pay his bills, and the good news is the whole experience caused him to leave jws.
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WTWizard
The whole thing is a scam designed to enslave people to poverty. Trust in joke-hova, give up everything that is remotely fun, and that thing is supposed to take care of you. And when it doesn't, you are always put to blame. That "secret sin" crap is a common excuse.
And I have had the witlesses try to guilt me into quitting whatever job I happened to have so I could pious-sneer. I wouldn't last half a day as a pious-sneer. One time, the scumbag that dragged me into the cancer tried offering me an apartment "so I could save gobs and gobs of money, cut way back on work, and pious-sneer". The "gobs and gobs of money" amounted to 5 toilet papers a month savings on rent (around 275 toilet papers a month at the time). At the pay I was making at the time, that was roughly 20 minutes a week of savings. You don't schedule yourself--you work when you are scheduled, and 20 minutes is nothing. Plus the commute was roughly 5 times longer, in a worse neighborhood to boot. And total control of everything coming in--those records I snake-tossed would have simply been left. Good thing Saturn left Sagittarius--the sign it was in when I joined the cancer--and Uranus went retrograde. Otherwise, I would have been ensnared.
And, when the money ran out, I would have probably had to move back in with my parents--or grandparents (not witlesses, but every bit as spiritually abusive). And that would have meant adjusting to no holidays, and who knows what else, in addition to joke-hova still expecting me to pious-sneer and live up to all the standards for exemplary members just for the basics.
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LongHairGal
KateWild:
No, I refused. I likened the religion's expecting people to just quit jobs and live on the edge as jumping from a plane without a parachute. I didn't care what these fools said. I kept on working and didn't care that certain people thought I was a "fringe" witness or not "spiritual" enough.
It used to gall me hearing older married sisters with a comfortable life saying "oh, how spiritual they are..." when describing somebody who was pioneering and living like a pauper. But this poverty wasn't for them, just somebody else!
While there may have been a few "success" stories of people doing this, they were usually because the person had some back-up such as relatives OR they may have been fortunate enough to have had some education which enabled them to get part-time work in a field that paid something. However, these situations were hardly ever permanent and the person stopped at some point.
zeb:
Yup, just what I am saying: they were expecting some young sh#thead to do this, but not them. Hell no. These older folks with the cushy lifestyle wouldn't be caught dead doing it. I could not stand these people. I made sure I let the religion's damaging fool advice go in one ear and out the other.
Now, I am glad I am not there to hear all the hard-luck stories! I am sorry for anybody who listened to their garbage.
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KateWild
Uranus went retrograde-WTW
LOL! Your head was not firmly stuck up Uranus, what a good example you are for young ones considering taking up the pion-sneer ranks. Thank you. Kate xx
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KateWild
Well, he couldn't pay his bills, and the good news is the whole experience caused him to leave jws.-Julia
Another sad experience young ones can learn from.Thanks for your post, Kate xx
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KateWild
I am sorry for anybody who listened to their garbage.-LHG
Thanks for your sympathy, but thanks also for your experience. This drives home to me, that many JWs don't actually make choices based on doctrine or spirituality. They just do what is best for themselves, like the guy in the youtube. Then they attribute it to putting the Kingdom first. Rubbish, this family will be on the platform at the next CA, SA or DC.
This family are frauds masqueraiding as spiritual JWs, I pity them that they are stuck in a cult, but I am annoyed that they have little integrity.
Kate xx
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blondie
Twice I did that...I wonder where I'd be if I had stayed...but after the second time I got a good job with government and good benefits. That was the beginning of my education, the last pioneering fiasco. But it was educational as to the Christian values of jws.