Why hasn`t / doesn`t the "TRUE GOD" clarify his " GODSHIP" between the JEWS , the CHRISTIANS and the MUSLIMS.

by smiddy 51 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  PelicanBeach

  Perry,

  "Failing to listen to God's message of redemption through the blood od his Son, most people will only hear God speak on Judgment Day. This will not be a friendly conversation."

  Who appointed you prophet? What qualifications do you have to declare with certainty what God will or will not do? My goodness, get a hold of yourself man.

  Discussing the Bible and faith is one thing but declaring a condemnation on most people is something else entirely!

  Jonah you are not but even he had to recognize his ego, his desire to be in the right even at the expense of others was shall we say; Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.

  Pelican
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  Perry

  Discussing the Bible and faith is one thing but declaring a condemnation on most people is something else entirely!

  Pelican, God must judge someday. Failure to do so would mean that God is ultimately an enabler of sin. As God, he is good. Just as a good judge would be derelich in his duty to ignore evidence & refuse to judge a theif, God, in his "all-knowingness", must one day judge everyone who has sinned, or at least that has knowingly sinned.

  To say that a good God won't judge people is a contridiction in terms. It is close to the same as saying "there is no God" but it is a little different. It is actually idolatry because the believer has created a false God in his own image - One that won't judge sin.
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  designs

  Perry- you know or should know that position is only laid out in the NT. Human sacrifice was a major no no in Judaism, as is the idea of Original Sin. The Pauline conscription of Jewish Covenants for his new religion amount to smoke.
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  Perry

  Designs, I quoted Jesus. Why do you continue to attack Paul?
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  cantleave

  Christianity states that we are all God's enemies. In short we're unholy and he is Holy

  Talk about a pre-judging - what a bastard! I wouldn't worship a despot like that even if he did exist.
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  Perry

  Cantleave,

  The WT created a false God whereby just by dying you could get a clean slate and all would be forgiven. You Cantleave. YOU hurl obsenities at God. And yet, if someone stole your car, I bet you'd be the first one to call the police for justice. You appear trapped in an illogical mental prison.
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  PelicanBeach

  Perry,

  This forum is filled with people who time and again have shown love for their neighbor. They have tenderly and with much effort tried to support and help their fellow man who has fallen into the pit of hypocritical religion and hypocritical religious leaders. Can you read hearts? Do you know exactly what each circumstance is for every person here? Has God made these things known to you? Do you not see that climbing on a judgment seat is akin to some of the pharisees of Jesus' day? They felt themselves more righteous than the common man who did not have the outward appearance and the supposed superior knowledge that the pharisees claimed to have.

  We walk on a road not ours when we attempt to condemn our fellow. That road belongs to Christ alone and we should REMEMBER thatJesus spent much more time condemning the hypocrisy of the men taking the lead than those who were being trampled by them, those in spiritual need.

  God has the power to make himself known when he wishes to do so, our job is to encourage a little faith here and there, if possible, but not to force people to believe. Why should they? Who are we, you and I? No one. People are struggling with the real problems they see in the Bible and the long stretch of time since Christ walked the earth and so on. It is natural and logical that many are losing faith in God's existence and Christ's teachings. We CANNOT MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE only God can do that. All we can do is put a little comment enouraging faith in God here and there and hope in God that what we say may not stumble others something many times unavoidable on a forum.

  People here LOVE! What more can be asked of them until God himself steps in? Nothing.

  Pelican
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  sspo

  No parent would allows the suffering of his children if he had the power to do something about it.

  No loving God would allow the suffering of billions....you could blame Satan but a mighty God would and could easily crush him and there would be no reason to wait and prove a point.

  None of us would allow it to go on.......excuses, excuses, excuses, christians need to stop excusing God.

  Mankind has worshipped "GODS" for 1000's of years, have not heard and seen him because he's not up there.
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  steve2

  The Watchtower can be accused of creating many things (e.g., counting time door-knocking! ) But, no way did the Watchtower create a false god at all Perry.

  That false god was already "created" and notoriously "present" in the quivering hearts and minds of millions upon millions of believers. Thunderously terrifying sermons down through the centuries and heart-stopping persecution in the name of the Divine monster testify to the "exstence" of the monster who pre-existed by millenia the cranky Watchtower end-time take on Jehovah. So don't tell me the Watchtower invented Jehovah. It simply embraced andf promulgated a literal take that was already in people's nervous consciouness.

  At worst, the Watchtower simply updated the Old Testament monster - a monster who thought nothing of genocidal rages (in the most righteous terms of course).

  We now realize that those monstrous "takes" on what "god" is like are nothing more than social constructions reflecting the thinking of the time. Some say that simply reflects the Old Covenant and that is not what god is like at all. Oh, well thank you so much for pointing out that this socially constructed "loving god" has allowed himself to be reformed and made a blood sacrifice of his son to which humans had better be thankful - if they know what is good for them.

  The only difference between the god of the Old Testament and the god of modernity is the latter's apologists are able to use more convincing sweet reason to give the "current" god far better press coverage.

  Angry at god? Nah. That doesn't make sense - although that is a common charge. God is "merely" a powerful social construction. Angry at the men (and few women too I guess) who depicted god as a jealous monster? Nah. That image fitted in with their limited thinking. Angry at current apologists who argue and reason more eloquently about the "reality" of the blood-redeemed love of god? Nah. Not angry - perhaps more astonished that anyone with an active thinking brain puts the time and effort into remediating a socially constructed "god" who conveniently changes with the secular enlightenment of our times.
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  KateWild

  The answer to the OP, is IMO God doeasn't care about anyone, so he stays silent on the matter. No religion is right, they are all man made to control women and the vulnerable.

  Hey but that's just my opinion.

  Kate xx