Problems of Dating the Watchtower Way

by enigma1863 61 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • blondie
    blondie

    The WTS has weird ideas about sex.

    They have a policy (elders manual) that allows them to DF a jw who was alone overnight with someone of the opposite sex without a chaperone. (2 witnesses of that fact anyway) but not if the same people are alone during the day without a chaperone.

    That must mean that sex can only happen at night not during the day.

    Strong circumstantial evidence, such as pregnancy or evi-
    dence (testified to by at least two witnesses) that the
    accused stayed all night in the same house with a person of
    the opposite sex (or in the same house with a known
    homosexual ) under improper circumstances, is acceptable.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    @ Outlaw...lol.

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    Although, not to be too technical, I think correctly it should read "Brother assh*le" and "Sister b*tch".

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    marital turmoil/disillusionment/extreme unhappiness/biggest mistake of your JW life (aside from baptism)/thoughts of murder should never dampen a JWs desire to use "theocratic" terminology when addressing the JW assh*le or b*tch they are married to.*

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    * (except if it's Anthony Morris III....then previously stated rules are null and void and you can call him whatever you like).

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    blondie - "The WTS has weird ideas about sex."

    It generally mirrors the attitudes of the rest of fundamentalist Christianity.

    I find it interesting that lately, some Biblical scholars are suggesting that the Bible's prohibitions on non-marital sex have less to do with actual sex, and more to do with property ownership; in Biblical times, an unmarried girl was viewed as her father's property, and a married woman her husband's property.

    By that logic, for a man to have sex with an unmarried woman may well have been viewed as sampling the merchandise before paying, and adultery may well have been viewed as a more serious form of actual theft (not that I'm condoning the idea that human beings should be viewed as property, of course).

    It would explain why there was relatively mild consequences for two unmarried youngsters who'd hooked up and got caught (basically, monetary compensation to the girl's father equaling the cost of a human asset, and a shotgun wedding if a bun was in the oven) but harsher consequences for full-on adultery. Back then, theft could be a matter of life and death for the victim, after all, and the potential "theft" of a man's means of ensuring his heredity would have been viewed really seriously (ancient cultures were much more concerned with heredity and lineage than we are today).

    Hmm.

    It just occurred to me; we in the civilized Western World consider it completely unethical to view daughters and wives as property. If what I suggested was indeed the case, an argument could be made that the Bible's sexual prohibitions may therefore not neccessarily apply any longer, any more than other Biblical prohibitions that have become - for practical reasons - unneccessary (after all, Jesus never told the Samaritan woman at the well that she had to marry the man she was living with ).

    'Course, that'd never happen in fundy religions like the WTS; they'd be too scared that everybody'd immediately throw all restraint into the wind and transform into a freaky-ass, heaving, sweaty mass of writhing bodies...

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Vidiot: they'd be too scared that everybody'd immediately throw all restraint into the wind and transform into a freaky-ass, heaving, sweaty mass of writhing bodies...

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    WT could get around this problem with 'new light': "fractions" of orgies....

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    AndDontCallMeShirley - "WT could get around this problem with 'new light': 'fractions' of orgies...."

    Never happen, if for no other reason than the old guys in Brooklyn would resent the R&F for having better sex lives than themselves.

  • Still Totally ADD
    Still Totally ADD

    WT rules. Don't touch, don't look, don't feel anything, no touching yourselve after a date, no kissing, no tight clothing, no short clothing on low cut clothing, no talking about how much you love each other only talk about WT stuff, no dreamy eyes just keep your eyes to yourself, make sure you are never alone with your date, remember God does not trust you even though he invented sex he does not want you to have it until you paid the high price of marriage at a young age, again don't touch yourself God invented those hands for other things, and never and I mean never think about sex even though God invented it because he will kill you because you are made to procreate, also and follow this very closely there are a group of old men who wear out of style suits telling you they know what is best for you and you better listen to them or they will ruin your life forever with guilt. I am sure there is more but thats all I can think of for now. Still Totally ADD

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    It's seeing every date as a potential mate that puts all this pressure on young people. Then, if the girl is coy or flirty, she's leading the guy on! Then, there's the spinsters who don't manage to attract an approved brother before they're thirty. Talk about frustration!

    My daughter got to know a co-worker, different cult, that also took the "unequally yoked" admonition a little far. They took it to mean, "marry only in your race", and "marry in the sect". Hey, there aren't any matches in her teeny little church! Forced celibacy. The woman also refuses to work on the "internet". Demon possessed, don't you know.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Vidiot: Never happen, if for no other reason than the old guys in Brooklyn would resent the R&F for having better sex lives than themselves

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    Oh, the OGIB (Old Guys In Brooklyn) have sex? You are certainly optimistic. LOL.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    My congo bitched because my fiance' and I sat next to each other at the KH. I mean...come on!! In retrospect some of the Elders were right, we were way too young to get married. The WTBTS system contributes to young marriages, so it's really strange. It's like the Eldubs are fighting against a system that their leaders create. The END is soon, so why not marry the first girl who touches your weenie?? The next thing you know, ten years have passed and you know who you are, and what you want/need, but you married the wrong person. Or did you??? Could you really have married the "right" person in the ORG??? Are YOU the right person for anyone?? It's maddening..

    DD

  • enigma1863
    enigma1863

    I am a fader and I have had several female "roomates".

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