Donations - how much is normal? (page 4)

jgnat

How about inquiring about her hesitation? Is she embarrassed, afraid? What does she think will happen if she tells? Is she preserving a sense of independence, building an exit plan just in case?

piztjw

Donations - how much is normal?

Just a little bit more than you will ever possibly be able to give!

I second what jgnat said, however I'd like to point out that most donations are in cash and are made extremely discreetly (it's rare at a meeting to even see more than one person go near one of the boxes, it's almost like they're playing a game to see who can be the stealthiest in dropping in money), so no one has any idea what someone else gives unless they write a check (in my experience handling donations, only elderly sisters write checks for some reason). Therefore status is not generally derived from contributions to the congregation, though there are further opportunities to buy objects like lawnmowers or to donate to the CO, which are cases where money might be giving someone a bit more status because it's clearly connected with them.

I think you used an interesting word before when you said, "It is all part of my campaign to get her to open up." Imagine that I'm a politician and my campaign slogan is, "Vote for me or else." Not very appealing is it? Rather I should be appealing to someone on an emotional level or using logical reasoning, to encourage them to vote for me. So when you issue an ultimatum, that's not a campaign, that's just control. It furthers the lack of trust in the relationship when one mate acts suspicious of the other. Instead you should take a page from the handbook that women use, and guilt her into telling you. That's assuming you really really need to know.

Personally I think you're over-reacting, considering that you seem financially comfortable and a few hundred dollars a year is not a lot of money to donate. Your phrase "the evil organization" says it all. Granted, they are evil, but they're also the group that your wife loves and cherishes being a part of. I would suggest that your strong negative feelings about the org. are preventing you from empathizing with your wife.

WTWizard

In practice, they are supposed to give all they absolutely can. This means trimming expenses to the absolute bare minimum, so they can have everything else to donate to the Worldwide Damnation Fund. In addition, they are supposed to cut as far back on their work as absolutely possible, and to do all they absolutely can, to advance the damnation work in their own territory, including pious-sneering. This was detailed as recently as the October 6, 2013 washtowel study when such advice was found in the study rag. And the hounders interpret that as meaning everyone should cut down to the absolute barest possible standard of living, both through donating to the Worldwide Damnation Fund and through cutting back on work.

And notice that they mean "absolutely" and not "reasonably".

OUTLAW

How much would a well-off Witness be expected to donate?

..........................The Same As A Poor JW..

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.....................As Much As The WBT$ Can Get..

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.................................................................... ...OUTLAW

emeth

@frazzled and Kate

jgnat and Apognophos tell it how it is.

Frazzled UBM

So my wife asked me for money today. I said to her: 'You have your own money from working, I am not asking you to contribute any of that to household expenses, you can spend it as you see fit and you don't have to tell me what you are spending it on but if you want me to give you additional money you need to explain why." She confessed that the £800 she had withdrawn she had sent to her father to fix the roof on their house. I said that's fine I don't have a problem with you helping your family financially. Apparently she had been embarrassed to tell me because when I criticised her for going to the WT study on higher education I had pointed out the hypocrisy of her and her family depending on my money derived from my Satan inspired uiniversity education and career when they had all only graduated high school based on the WBTS prohibition on higher education and so did not earn enough money to support themselves. She had responded with outrage that I suggested that her parents might need to rely on my money. I am hoping this experience has helped her to wake up a little.

emeth

@frazzled you dont sound like a loving husband at all

KateWild

I am hoping this experience has helped her to wake up a little.-fraz

I know you will be relieved the money didn't go to WT. I think your wife probably is awake to being financially stable. The fact that she married you and not an uneducated JW says something about her deep feelings. I wouldn't be surprise if she wants your son to get a good education and stable career in the future.

Do you want her out? or are you happy with the status quo for now?

Kate xx

Frazzled UBM

emeth - thanks for judging me - good to see Witness habits die hard - please explain your comment but I guess ipso facto I am bad because I side with SATAN as I have confessed on the thread asking this question. Do you think I was out of line to criticise her hypocrisy of swallowing WBTS BS about higher education and then expecting me to fork out from the money I earn by virtue of my higher education to help out her family impoverished by accepting the WBTS BS about higher education? I am actually a very loving husband given I have a wife who is impaired by taking too much direction from a bunch of power crazed old men in New York. But when she is not in cult mode we get along very well - thank you very much. Fraz

Donations - how much is normal?

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