ex-jws and cognitive dissonance

by HildaBingen 46 Replies latest jw friends

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Hilda,

    : :How is freedom from an oppressive organization like smoking?:

    :: The analogy is this. smokers participate in activity that harmful for them and try justify because of dissonance cognitionally. ex jw do same thing.

    That is NOT an analogy, you idiot.

    Farkel

  • Englishman
  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    The text , you quote, can also be found in Acts 9:5.
    Of course it depends which translation you are reading, as to the words used.

    "kicking against the pricks" is how the KJV has it...

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    I dips me lid to ya, guv (Eman). Very astute. And wot a memory you got!!

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

    - Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress

  • Sunchild
    Sunchild

    Speaking of cognitive dissonance....

    Mystikool told me i should endure. he said it not right for me to drop out when there is battle to be fought. so i no longer offended. i going to speak my mind in this place.

    Just out of curiosity, why are you really here? When I was a JW in good standing, I wouldn't have been caught DEAD in an "apostate" hang-out spot, online or off. Not with all the stuff I'd been told about bad associations and how getting involved with such people would mean giving my implicit approval of their actions. Besides, if the elders ever found out, I know I would've ended up in the back room faster than you can say "public reproof."

    If you're a JW in good standing, how do you explain your being here and posting here? You can justify it to yourself, but I doubt your congergation would be quite so understanding.

    *Rochelle, curious.

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    "I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
    -- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

  • mystikool
    mystikool

    :Hilda,
    On the subject of dissonance, you haven't told me yet, as far as I can tell, why you chose the posting name HildaBingen.

    Could you fill us in?

    Or could there be some dissonance in your own life?:

    Let a man answer the question. I will let woman be silent now.

    There is no cognitive dissonance occurring in Hilda's cogs. She has been deeply touched und influenced by Hildegard. Hildegard was a true mystic who just happened to live at wrong time. If she had lived today, she most surely would accepted jw belief. Read Hildegard sometimes. She kool. Hilda Bingen has touched by her. She also been touched by Han Kung. He heretic but good guy. He know trinity false and pope. Good guy that Kung.

  • HildaBingen
    HildaBingen

    :Hilda, what exactly is it about the WT that makes you think they are teaching the truth? The Bible is truth, not the false interpretations that the governing body puts into it.:

    wt deny trinity like hans kung. they teach truth.

    :Have you ever read the Bible, like in context, or do you just skim and dip like all the other JW's I know?:

    I read whole bible in contex many time. Some people tell me I uneducated genius since I have no university degree.

    :Read the gospels, start to finish. I bet you wont be a JW long after that.:

    I read them many time and still jw. That blow dat theory.

    :Also, why do we need someone to tell us what the Bible is saying. Why cant we just let the Bible tell us what it is saying?
    Penn:

    Only God tell Hilda what bible say. she only answer to God. God interpret bible. He the author of it.

    :No blood, no beards, no smoking, no holidays, shunning, . [In the Bible? Well, not exactly]:

    Acts 15:29

    I dont like beard. they rough on the lips when you go kiss your hubby.

    Cigarettes kill the temple of the body.

    Holidays are pagan and brother Paul said get wicked man out from you.

    What do you mean, not exactly?

  • mystikool
    mystikool

    :If xJWs suffer from that, I guess JWs like you are suffering them as well because an xJW was a JW at first so where do these cognitive dissonance and malfunctioning defense mechanisms come from?:

    You need to take course in psychology. it might help you discern what we are saying. Just because you suffer from cd or are neurotic, it does not mean that it is someone else fault. Where is the locus of control? Is it in you or out you? You be the judge.

    :Also, if an xJW was DF'ed for suffering from what you said, it clearly shows that the JWs are doing a shitty job at helping and an even shittier job at demostrating Christian love.:

    everyone free moral agents. dont blame others for your own problems. You got fault logik. just cause johnny a criminal do not mean that he criminal cause of parents or society. locus of control within. I am what I think you think I am, yes, but my locus of control still interior.

  • HildaBingen
    HildaBingen

    :Wow, I guess reading the Awake! really is like getting a college edumacation! Hildy I bet you're the smartest window washer/janitor/cult member ever!:

    I said that people call me uneducated genius. And it all come from reading wt und ak.

    but Hilda love her job wash windows too. it is fulfilling and so noological to see a clean window after it been squeeze by me. I would not trade my window business for nuthin.

  • HildaBingen
    HildaBingen

    :If you're a JW in good standing, how do you explain your being here and posting here? You can justify it to yourself, but I doubt your congergation would be quite so understanding.:

    We only answer to God, dear. That what hans kung say. He answer to no man. only God of monotheism. We do same. We do not suffer cd. We only here speak truth and set record straight about bowen. He liar, we true.

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