by nugget 324 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Just one more thought.
I know some cases in my country where an elder or a group of elders have been pushing elderly people (mostley women/widovs) to change their wills. In one case the elders had formulated a new will and pushed the lady to sign it. The lady felt so bad about it that she told her daughter about it, and she helped her mother annulate that will.
So the thought of elders looking at tax returns is not that farfetched.
The idea in the past was to finance the "Worldwide work" loosely based on the congregation literature use. You ordered so many mags and books and gave an amount to compensate for them. Since they were legally free of charge on a donation basis, they couldn't pressure the congregations to give a set amount, but they came as close to that pressure as they thought they should.
With "set amounts" dedicated to WTS, expect the literature to become extremely scarce. Expect some congregations to challenge their set amount and stories galore about how they are threatened with removal.
It just may have stopped being so boring.
Neverending - none of my comments were directed to you - and not actually to anyone in particular. You are fine and so are your comments.
My comments were in general to describe my disappointment in how some posters here who are clearly not trolls, will still tend to always try to discredit those of us who are just trying do the right thing or to share something we've been told by someone who has proven their credibility in the past.
While I'd like to continue to share that information, right - wrong - near miss - or too fantastic to believe at times - I am afraid that my contacts will read the negative responses and either stop sharing with me or simply tell me to stop posting any of it on JWN. Remember that they have provided this information to help keep us informed, often at great risk to themselves. One of our insiders was caught and kicked out of Bethel very recently for getting the word out. How do you think he would feel now if the very thing he shared appeared here and the loudest voices immediately called it bogus?
I'm good with everyone here - most of the time. Not that any of that matters. But sometimes I do worry that someone may miss a warning or a critical piece of information because it was shouted down prematurely.
JV
What has been revealed is that nothing is too farfetched for the WT organization.
Their demise looms, they can sense it.
They've never had to deal with anything like this before.
Let us just stay calm and allow the "moles" to do their thing.
Sylvia
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-credit-card-balance-2014-4
Check it out. It ain't just Witnesses that are broke. This is some serious stuff.
Juan, be careful. I have noticed a certain "tendency" to gradually and slowly attack people who appear on this site with critical information - ending in the poster getting discouraged and going away -which fits the interests of the Watchtower.
This happened with "Maximus". It was done to Barb Anderson too. Coincidence? Maybe.... maybe not. I know this - that the NSA and CIA monitor the internet and try to influence threads away from certain dangerous topics such as 9/11 or secession talk.
If the government does this, the Watchtower might do it too, within their own sphere of topics.
This is a guerrilla war. It will never stop until the evil centralized power is drained away or collapses. Godspeed to that.
metatron
JV,
Keep doing what you do. Some folks will get carried away with speculation. Others will express skepticism and try to bring them back down to Earth. Healthy debate and the free flow of information is superior to groupthink.
As to the trolls...it's the internet, man. I belong to another board centered around a football team I follow closely. This is tame compared to the stuff that gets thrown around over there. Don't take comments from anonymous internet commenters too seriously. Just my $.02.
If these elders dare to knock on my door to encourage me to come back I will tell them "wish I could afford to go, maybe someone can pay for my seat or glad I don't have to go for the year since I'm all paid up." I wonder if the hall is all paid up for the year, if these goons will even care if people are at their meetings. It's all about the dollar. Next the other contribution boxes will be taken down and they'll have to pass a resolution for that. Then the lunchroom will disappear, washrooms and then the building. I would pay to never have watchtower exist or their wicked rules!
Juan Viejo2 wrote:
But sometimes I do worry that someone may miss a warning or a critical piece of information because it was shouted down prematurely.
There's a clear line between missing critical information because of a lack thereof, and wild rampant speculation that confuses and does not inform. This thread unfortunatley has crossed that line. I saw some honest posts of people who were confused and could not discern the WTBS bashing from actual fact. I know it wasn't your intention, but it is what is happening. I have found myself doing the same thing, even inside of the borg. Sometimes people get carried away, sometimes people like to get carried away.
neverendingjourney wrote:
Healthy debate and the free flow of information is superior to groupthink.
Juan Viejo2 don't pay any mind to those nincompoop/crybaby/whiner/wimpy critics (whoever they may be).
You and your sources carry-on and keep the rest of us informed just as you've been doing! The vast majority here greatly appreciate your input.
Go therefore and build religious edifices, dedicating them to thy diety. You must cloth thyself with fine garments when entering and lay before my princes
gold and silver offerings as a token of thy loyalty. For all authority has been delivered unto my chosen channel to observe all things whatsoever they
command of you, sayeth the Lord.
Watchpower 28:19,20
