by non_trias_theos 46 Replies latest jw friends
$$$iF YOU READ THE MATERIAL AT ALL YOU KNOW THAT THE WITNESSES ARE THE ONES WHO ATTACK OTHERS. IF NOT THEN WHY IS EVERYONE NOT A WITNESS CONSIDERED WORDLY????$$$
Excuse me, sis, could you please turn off your CAPS?
Your question is actually a no brainer. I wonder whether some ex-jws ever read the Bible. The term "world" as applied to non-Christians is a biblical term.
Read 1 John 2:15-17; 5:19.
The world is constantly juxtaposed with Christianity in the bible.
The fact that you could write this sentence...:
"As I look back in time through the recesses of my mind..."
...tells me all I need to know about Non. Watch out for those recesses, bro. Looks like a bad writer curled up and died back there!
Goodby, non-trias-theos.
S4
Dear NonTT... may you have peace!
May I comment on your... ummmm... assertions? Thank you!
First, I would like to address the 'bad' husband/wife and 'embittered xjw's' thing:
I think that the WTBTS, while claiming to promote 'good' marriages, actually creates some very bad ones. How's that? Because when people LIVE A LIE... it permeates every part of that life. For instance, the 'good' elder/husband that the congregation sees, may not be the same 'evil' husband/father the family sees. Or the 'docile' pioneer/wife, who's really a shrieking harpy at home.
The WTBTS is SO concerned about cleansing the OUTSIDE of the dish, and LOOKING good to neighbors, co-workers, non-JW family, other JWs... that they entirely miss the point of cleansing the INSIDE... and actually BEING good... by promoting love... and not hate. Anything that doesn't agree with them is despised and hated. Thus, to a GREAT extent, they lack tact, pity, compassion, fellow-feeling.
They do not TEACH husbands and wives HOW to love each other... as the Christ loved the congregation... they simply reiterate the words. The Christ, on the other hand, tolerated much from his disciples, seldom grew impatient with them, certainly never maligned any of them, protected them, honored them, respected them... and not just when other folks were around to see.
And when they were tired, he ALLOWED them to rest. Jehovah's Witnesses are TIRED, NonTT. Exhuasted! And yet, they are not allowed to rest, not at all. Sure, the Master himself rested very little... but he did NOT impose on his disciples what HE knew to be too much for them. He NEVER burdened them. But the 'yoke' of the Society is great. It is burdensome, so burdensome that its leaders bind the people up with heavy loads even THEY can't carry. And the families suffer. Greatly.
The solution? If they would only stop directing people to THEMSELVES and their 'golden calf' organization ("we need something we can SEE while we wait for Moses/the Christ to return down off the mountain/Zion")... if they would only THEMSELVES heed the words of my Lord:
"Come to ME, all you who are toiling and loaded down.
Take MY yoke, for MY load is LIGHT... and you WILL find
'refreshment' for your souls."
And what is that "yoke"? Simple. Love. For God, for neighbor (including family)... and for one's enemies. In this way, one PROVES himself to be a son of his father. The WTBTS, on the other hand, oversteps that very commandment... by teaching 'hate'... for all who are not 'of their sort'. What a HEAVY load!
Now with regard to your comment that:
The term "world" as applied to non-Christians is a biblical termI must disagree with you. The "world" is those who "hate" Christ's brothers, and judging by the WTBTS' overwhelming PRIDE in how the world views IT... and its members... they can't be Christ's brothers. Also, judging by their LIES (which originate from the wicked one)... AND their HATRED for those not 'like' them... not even being willing to listen to others' points of view as well as HELP someone in need, particularly an 'enemy' (and I refer mainly to those they 'expel' or 'disfellowship'), they again, overstep the commandment of God, as given by Christ in the parable of the Good Samaritan.
In THAT scenario, a Samaritan man, who was 'hated' by Jews, came to the aid of a Jew, when even his (the Jews) own people (including a Levite PRIEST!!)... walked on. Samartians were despised by Jews, and vice versa. Yet, out of pity and COMPASSION, this man lended his assistance. He didn't care about their differences, whether religious or not, or their relationship (the Jews and Samaritans were 'brothers'... but the Samaritants were despised because they had left off worshipping at the temple, which the Jews 'felt' to be TRUE worship!)
Now, as one of Christ's brothers, anointed by holy spirit with a TRUE anointing and not just some, "Well, I can't explain it" melarkey, I must tell you: the ONLY people in this entire world that hate me, that I KNOW of, are Jehovah's Witnesses. And, yes, they most certainly manifest it. Every time I enter the KHall and partake, you can almost hear the gnashing of teeth. You can certainly see the slitting of the eyes. And what harm have I done such ones? None, other than to tell them the truth, about who I am, who called me to be such... and what he commanded me to tell them. (Ezekiel 3:20, 21)
For that, because I would not be quiet... I was taken before their
'lower court/lesser Sanhedrin' and interrogated by a 'human tribunal', and finally, because I would NOT 'stop speaking about the things I had heard' but instead, obeyed GOD... rather than men... I was expelled. Disfellowshipped.
And even if I had been excommunicated from some other 'church' or religion, while they would have let me go, they would NOT have slandered me, nor treated me with contempt, in the process.
The 'world' hates me, NonTT... indeed. But, that 'world'... is the WTBTS... and it's 'children'.
I bid you peace.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
And there we have it folks; HildaBingen, Mystifool= Non_Trias_Theos exposed.
I just want to point out something with the rest of this board, be that you are JW or X-JW. This person is not a JW and most likely an X-JW, or a child whom is not baptized in the WTBTS(child of a JW). This person is someone who is familar with this board, has posted here before, and has taken another screen name. This person is not a "newbie". This person is also not an adult, and most likely a person in their late teens.
Pretty much, if this person is doing some kind of experiment, making a point, or just playing a game to blow off some steam...it's very childish. But the pattern in language and use of language is always the same. NOT similar. The SAME. This is a persistant pattern of language, it would of varied should it been someone else. This person is a waste of time.
And for their boast in intellect? BWAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHA!
Goodbye HildaMystiTheos.
D8TA
$$$And there we have it folks; HildaBingen, Mystifool= Non_Trias_Theos exposed.$$$
What are you talking about, sir?
$$$I just want to point out something with the rest of this board, be that you are JW or X-JW. This person is not a JW and most likely an X-JW. This person is someone who is familar with this board, has posted here before, and has taken another screen name. This person is not a "newbie". This person is also not an adult, and most likely a person in their late teens.$$$
Quite interesting. I have been accused of being an elder, a disloyal jw and now an ex-jw teen. Isn't the text deceptive as Derrida says. Ahh . . . differance! Both the difference and deferral of meaning that results in the non-presencing of intention and the overthrow of logocentrism.
My what a smart teenager we have in this place.
Go figure, my man.
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NON: Have you ever heard bitter divorcees relate their experiences about their former husbands or wives? Most of the time, if it is a wife telling the story, her former husband could not do anything right. He was a terrible father, lover, provider, cook, gardener and he smelled funky and was abusive. In other words, he was a total loser.
One wonders how the woman ever became attracted to such a loser or did he just change over time?
MARCH: He changed over time, who would marry him as described above?!?!
NON: While the awful depictions of husbands are sometimes true, I think the negative depictions are oftentimes exaggerated. Could everything have really been bad all the time? Maybe. Then again, maybe not.
MARCH: No, they were that good, I just felt like getting divorced, nothing better to do!!!!
NON: Peeps on this board sometimes remind me of bitter divorcees. Once they were supposedly happy Jws who had that first love and joyfully engaged in meeting attendance and the preaching work. Then something happened. What took place? What was responsible for the change in attitude? How did the organization go from THE org to THE borg? You tell non. Are you folks being a little hypercritical in this place?
MARCH: I am a bitter exwife and a bitter exjw. Your being a bit presumptuous about the joyfully engaged in meetings and preaching. What took place? Both the ex old man and the borg pretended to be something they were not. They looked real good til they hooked ya and once they hooked ya, ya got to see em for what they really are. My ex used to tell me I would never do better then him, hmmm sounds like the borg. So your right Non, I was once "supposedly" happy but now I am bitterly happy! Hypercritical? No, I no longer pretend to love either.
<<non-presencing of intention and the overthrow of logocentrism.>>
I was going to say that this person only proves how dangerously annoying a thesaurus can become if it falls into the wrong hands...but I don't think I can blame a misused thesaurus for this incomprehensible mush.
Don't bother folks.
Hello again, non...
I keep reading your stuff....wondering why I do...
Kind of like when you drive past an accident on the road, and you slow down to see what happened and how bad people were hurt, and then you regret looking because it was that disgusting.
Jewel:
I think alot of these words are not even found in a theosaurus.
My five year old uses two and three syllable words better than this clown.
Please, non, don't describe leaving the witnesses as a divorce, or someone "complaining" afterwards. If you ever wake up, perhaps you will have pain that you will need to talk about, if you leave the WT.
I'm tired of you. Stop patting yourself on the back for using big words. You are using most of them wrong.
graceabounds
This is my first post on this site. I have done quite a bit of reading before finally deciding to wheigh in. I have to ask myself, what is it exactly that NoN hopes to accomplish. Does he have any other goal than to esteem himself in his great righteousness? His mentality reminds me of a character that was always so present in the witnesses that I remember as a youth. I remember as a child riding around in the station wagon with our patent leather shoes and clip-on ties. I remember one man, an elder, that NON reminds me of very much. He used to take great pleasure in befuddling the unsuspecting victims whose homes we would disrupt on Saturday mornings. We would walk away from the door and he would chuckle and say, "Heh heh, I sure had that poor goat on the ropes." As we would drive by small humble little churchs in the unassigned territory he would point them out to our little group in the car and say, "there's another goat shed! one day that steeple will be struck with the lightning of Jehovah and an earthquake will swallow up the rest." It gave him pleasure to think that he had found the fountain of truth, that he was a bearer and protector of some great secret. HE WAS A PHARISEE! "I thank thee, Oh Lord that I am neither a woman or a bondslave" Nose in the air. Even as a child I thought this man an ass. Driving around in his little beat up Datsun condemning "materialism". What a joke. He would have gladly given up that rattling piece of junk for a real car. In fact he used to point out the homes of the affluent as something we could either choose to inhabit or destroy after God destroyed all the bad people. What he was doing was trying to justify his simpleness. It was nothing he could escape and he knew it. He had no marketable skills. His only success could be found at the Kingdom Hall. There he knew what to say and how to act. There he had been tip-toed through the scriptures of a decidely slanted bible and shown the "great truths" that had somehow eluded myriads of smarter men that had studied the word through the ages before him. I mean, when I look back on this today, I think to myself, how truly pathetic the lives of the witnesses are.
About five years ago, my sister had her second baby. She was beautiful. But the delivery brought complications that required that she have a hysterectomy. During this procedure the doctor made a mistake and cut one of her major arteries. That led to further complications that had my sister in the hospital for weeks. She nearly died more than once. Had it not been for transfusions, she would have died. This same elder that I mentioned above,came in and told her to give it up. Her husband was at home with a new baby and her three year old sister. I heard that he had been there and I immediately went to my sister's side. She was in such turmoil. I begged with her to look at other scriptures. I shared them with her. It became clear to her that this issue, like so many other issues that witnesses create, are simply devisive, family-splitting traps. Think about it. So much of the dogma that is handed down from the GB has only one purpose. To divide members from their non-believing family members. To create a wedge that renders new converts alone and needy. To increase the control that the WTBTS can have over them. Christmas, smoking, birthdays, and doctrine that flies so in the face of normal and sensible scriptural reasoning that they are naturally outcast. Then they are told to revel in it -- to recognize that only God's Chosen People are persecuted. I really used to believe while growing up that witnesses were the only people in the world that were persecuted. I even thought the holocuast was about JWs. sheesh.
NON if you really are an active JW and you really do believe what you've been posting on this site, I'll say this. Your days as a JW are numbered. You obviously have too much intelligence to continue in this manner. While the stuff your saying now reminds me of that idiot I spoke of earlier. I think you're smarter than he was. I certainly hope that your heart is softer.
My God is Love
Often when getting mated as when becoming a JW, one does not see the imperfections present. We tend to look through rose colored glasses. Ideally, the imperfections will not cause a breakup. But, when they are so severe as to cause damage to the other mate, it is time to leave and more often than not, that hurt carries through for a long time.
Sometimes too, one deliberately hides their imperfections and after you are snared, releases them, saying they were there all along and you just didn't see them. There too, much damage is done to the unsuspecting one and that hurt too carries forth for a long time.
It is not a game of get back but a method of dealing with extreme hurt and pain. The ongoing pain caused by teh unbiblical doctrine of shunning just multiplies the pain to an almost unbelievable degree. As in the case of my own soon to be ex, when I expressed my displeasure at being shunned and slighted within my own home, although none had a problem partaking of refreshments and hospitality provided by yours truly, her reply was, "you knew what to expect!"
Now, am I, as one wo just decided to not be a JW any longer, supposed to continue turning over my life and home to them, as they see fit? As for the soon to be ex, where in the marriage vows does it say that the Watchtower is placed over the spouse? That is exactly what many do.
Elders slighted my headship since I DA's myself telling her and her kids that since I am not a JW, I am no longer considered the head of the house. Scriptures tell me to head the house in a fine way, not the Watchtower way. I have the God given right to teach scripture as I see proper. But, how to do that when elders go bvehind your back teaching your other half to shun you and ignore anythng you say?
So, you see, there is much pain and hurt to deal with. Honestly, I could never give back half the amount of pain they have given me. But, relweasing it amongst friends who have also been screwed over by the same methods, does help emmensly.
