If someone cannot understand the difference between a personal rejection and institutionalized, culturally enforced shunning, then that person is not very bright.
It's called: GROUPTHINK
Have you ever read the review of Steven Hassan's books on Cult news.com?
by Enzo 144 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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jgnat
What happens in a lot of families where there are tensions? very often they don't speak years with each other.. or till they dies. And good family relations are broken.. Very sad, with my work I often deal with such situations.... why is this conduct accept, and why is nobody ring on the alarm bell? - Enzo
Others have already pointed it out, but I will reiterate.... the difference is the institutionally imposed shunning rather than a personal decision. I have family members that I barely talk to because of their conduct. I reduce harm to my psyche by limiting contact. On the other hand, a Witness parent may be required to shun their child for the most minor infraction, like smoking, or believing differently. I believe the parents also suffer psychic damage by going against their native instincts to simply love their family.
I personally know of an example of an intelligent, loyal, loving young man, college educated, who is rejected by his parents for fear of contamination of his "apostate" beliefs. What is the danger? He no longer believes that the Governing Body is the Faithful and Discreet Slave to be obeyed at the cost of everything else. He is being shunned for his intelligence!
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Oubliette
Enzo, I hereby command you to immediately begin shunning all of your family members and friends! You may no longer talk to them for any reason at all, even if they are in a dire emergency. This command is to be followed absolutely and without question. My orders last indefinitely.
If you want to know why, the anwer is: Because I said so.
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jgnat
I couldn't find an EC list of cults. Enzo, could you provide a link or are you talking through your hat again?
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Enzo
grazie per tutti i vostri commenti, dato che sono criticato cosi aspramente per L'inglese, vi scrivo nella mia lingua madre L'italiano..vi voglio dire che siete troppo suscettibil, e volete avere L'ultima parola in questione... Avete vinto, pero non mi convincerete mai... Ed io, non ho mai preteso di essere andato all'universita, e vi ho raccontato che lavoro per il servizio d'integrazione, dove il rispetto per qualsiasi denominazione Religiosa e auspicabile.. qualcosa che non sara mai purtroppo alla vostra altezza..il vostro odio vi ha reso ciechi.. Speriamo che il vostro modello, creato da Hassan, vi faccia capire, che con l'odio, e rancore non si ottengono risultati, ma con un attitudine comprensiva, essere pronti a cercare di capire un po gli altri, anche se non si condividono gli idee, o gli insegnamenti religiosi, si possono avere risultati inaspettati.. for all those who criticize me about my English, this is my answer in Italian....i will not anymore post something in English... greetings Enzo
PS: this was my last post on this subject..the reason is explained in my post in Italian..I hope that you will find all the peace you are searching...I will spend my days in helping people, rather than arguing with you, waisted time....
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Oubliette
Ciao baby!
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bohm
good riddance. I am certain there is a large market for people who need a professional councelor to tell them they should not worry about being shunned by their family because there are four bjiljards other people in the world.
The italian university system must be in an awfull state; you would be a disgrace even for a diploma mill run from a trailer park.
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Twitch
Need help with the door?
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Paralipomenon
To be fair though, Enzo would have been better received if he was court recognized. As such, I just cannot trust what he has to say.
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Enzo
parap: I didn' have the pretention that you must accept my opinions.. You are, alluding and making such conclusions..by yourself. And Nobody is asking to trust me...before I trust someone! This person has to gain my trust..This is a virtual world and everyone can pretending to be, or to know a lot off things.and yes I am not a court expert, but neither are you paraplipomenon.. Thus you can have a degree of a university, but you are not the only one... It's too sad that after a lot of days of discussing, and giving my opinion, that is not the same of the most of you, the only thing a view of you can do is using insulting or provoking language. .. this is very sad. And reveals A lot to me.. nobody forces you to give a reaction to what I am posting, and honestly I am not waiting on such ignorant comments....
But otherwise I am convinced that this site has very intelligent members, Some post of these people was very remarkable.. I will read their topics always with a lot of pleasure... have a good time...