The Views of "Normal Muslims" on Radical Islam

by cofty 45 Replies latest members politics

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  cofty

  Every time somebody criticises Islam they meet with the predictable response that "ordinary Muslims are not like that", whatever "that" is in the context.

  It is my conclusion that well-meaning western liberals confuse lapsed Muslims with normal mainstream Muslims. In the same way that if you heard somebody say that they know a nice JW guy who gets drunk, smokes, goes clubbing and has one-night stands, you would conclude that they know nothing about JWs.

  If you take a few minutes to watch this video published by the pro-Islam Norwegian website IslamNet.no you will hear normal Muslims speak for themselves about what is and isn't radical or extreme.

  It was filmed during a q&a session at a Sunni conference.

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  GrreatTeacher

  It was extremely creepy the eagerness they had in raising their hands in agreement with the speaker. The younger ones even more so. And the zombie smiles.

  I wonder who made up the audience and why they were there. Who was allowed to ask questions? Was dissent allowed?

  And, who was the guy second to the right in the front row who did not raise his hand in agreement?
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  cofty

  If the speaker at a JW convention asked the audience to raise their hand if they agree with similar statements it would be almost unanimous. None of them would consider themselves anything other than normal.

  Why are so many people reluctant to pay Muslims the respect of believing them, when they declare the motivation for their beliefs and actions? Islam - normal mainstream, common Islam, teaches it's adherents to be mysogynistic, to view non-Muslims with contempt - Muslim "kafir = JW "worldly" - to hate their apostates with a passion and to pray for the eternal destruction of all non-Muslims.
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  baltar447

  Islam is ALL radical. The ones that don't think so just haven't read the Koran.
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  jgnat

  That was a high-pressure situation and therefore not representative. I have Muslim friends and their prejudice seems no less than those of a devout Evangelical.

  Note Stalin's ovation:

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8272473.stm
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  jgnat

  One of the cognitive traps that the Muslims find themselves is that they tell themselves that they are united under one brotherhood, whereas Christendom is hopelessly fragmented. So all a "teacher" has to do is stand up and quote a verse, and ask if all are agreed....
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  cofty

  That was a high-pressure situation and therefore not representative

  The guy in the front row had no problem keeping his hand down.

  Any Muslim who failed to agree with the speaker's questions would be in direct conflict with the quran and sunnah/hadith.
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  jgnat

  All right, one Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in the crowd.

  Yes, cognitive dissonance at it's finest. It does not mean that the congregation would go out and put it in practice once outside the building. How many Christians take the Great Commission literally?
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  cofty

  One of the cognitive traps that the Muslims find themselves is that they tell themselves that they are united under one brotherhood

  That is what makes Islam so dangerous. It is like medeival Christianity. It has yet to find it's Luther let alone it's Shelby-Spong
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  jgnat

  Yet, I find the five-fold path appealing.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Pillars_of_Islam

  First of all, it is more achievable than say, seventy-times seven forgiveness. Second, the poor made the list.