Heaven i think religion must be a personal choice.
But my question is would you compromise your own ethical and moral standards for love?
Would you convert to a religion for love?
by new hope and happiness 43 Replies latest jw friends
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DATA-DOG
I'm doing it right now, but not for my wife. I live a lie for my child. My wife will not stay with an "apostate", and my child needs me around to continue to teach them how to reason and bring balance to the cult mentality. My child would be a stressed out young pioneer by now, instead of a non-baptized, reasoning, young person.
So I make many compromises. I believe that the WTBTS will screw up big time, and my teachings will click in my kids head. My only regret is not doing more, but you can't teach what you don't know.
DD
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keyser soze
No. I wouldn't consider it 'love' if there were such a huge condition attached to it.
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new hope and happiness
Answers should be based on the " spell" of being in loved.
yes under that " spell" i would compromise my own ethical and moral standards.
Under that spell " love" is not a rational nor positive emotion.
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sparky1
If you are under a 'spell' you are not 'in love'. Rather you are 'in thrall'. Two completely different states of mind.
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new hope and happiness
yes Sparky 1 :-
i agree love is presented to the world as an image of beauty...we love based on superficial beauty.
What is " love" in your opinion Sparky?
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joyfulfader
i could never convert for love because then it's not true love. I want to be accepted for who I truly am as a person and vice versa. Love is hard enough to maintain under the best of circumstances. This topic makes me think of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding". Sure it worked for them but that's the movies for ya. I have no idea how that would work in reality.
And marrying for money or social status is ridiculous...both can be gone in an instant. i do think 2 people need to be on similar pages religiously and financially to stand the test of time.
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talesin
Actually, new hope, those are the two religions I find the 'least' offensive. And of course, being a Jew is embracing a culture, not just a religion. Many Unorthodox Jews are not very different from church-on-Sunday Christians on the scale of 'devout'. At this point, though, 20+ years later, I could not do it.
tal
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new hope and happiness
Talsin, a good point. As for me l try to live by the 4 noble truths of Buddisam.
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talesin
New Hope, yes, one of my life teachers explained some of the Four Truths to me, in bits and pieces, but it was far too much for me to take in at the time. May I ask which 'school' of Buddhism you relate to? My teacher practices Shambala, for I live in the city of the Shambala Prince, and it is here that Shambala Buddhism has its headquarters. I like some of the ideas of Buddhism, and though I will not embrace it as a religion, would love to study more once I can concentrate better.
I do love the Myoho-renge-kyo chant (not part of the Shambala school), and was speaking to a friend a few weeks ago about perhaps trying the chanting to help with my focus. I find that mindful meditation helps a lot, but still, the pain intrudes on my thought processes.
Though religion is not my thing, I embrace the philosophy of Gaia. And that, well, it feels right. I've always loved nature and animals, druidism, all that stuff, much more than people, so go figure! :D
xx
tal