Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??

by FeelingFree 47 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • FeelingFree
    FeelingFree

    Exactly their stupid policies have actually made them look so, so bad. There must be thousands of other victims all over the world who have held their tounge until now and having seen all these other abuse cases coming out feel its time for the WBTS to get their justice.

    I agree all these cases need national attention. JW's need to see the facts and where their hard earned cash is being spent. Not on counstruction and maintenance of KH's or furthering the preaching work nope... it's going on child sexual abuse court case settlements.

  • Calebs Airplane
    Calebs Airplane

    Some dubs just love themselves more than their own children. So they'll do everything possible to save their asses... even if that means going to the elders instead of the police...

  • Legacy
    Legacy

    @FeelingFree,

    I'm just happy you posted this..how does it go National, I live in a place where I don't know if this is happening, so how can I go to the media, these things happened outside my state..How does one get the attention of the BIG BROTHER MEDIA, so the friend will see. I'm not looking for the Society to fall, but for the friends to stay in if they want, after hearing the truth ...many Catholics stayed after they found out what the Priest were doing. I think many are afraid that there are child abuse issues in the org. Why? Because now they have to eat crow..Just picture this...you go around knocking on doors, turning your back on some friends & family because you belong to God's org...& you are bold & even rude about it...How can you in turn, go back to these folks that you may have offended or shunned because of the truth. That's a lot of crow to swallow. When I go out in service, I try to be confident, but I'm not rude & I don't say anthing about being in God's org. it's that I'm here to help you see, there is something bigger than us. To bring comfort to folks, not to hit them over the head with the bible & say, you gonna die, if you don't join me. Really it's all in your approach of how you approach folks, I like the way Paul said, he was weak when they were weak, he was a Jew, if they were a Jew...meaning he was flexible...& he felt he had the truth but he didn't beat folks over the head with it, he just stated what he believed.

    Again, I don't know how to make this a national concern....but hope one day it's exposed & the friends will stay in the org by choice not by scare tactics. The org is afraid of losing their congregation, but they weren't in 1975, when the end didn't come.

    Legacy

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    JehoNvah's Witnesses are not normal people. They are isolated from the world. The world is evil. Civil authorities are repeatedly mocked. Theocratic warfare means they can blatantly lie to police and courts. Caesar's things are not rendered to Caesar. Individual Witnesses trust elders more than police. They know the elders from the massive intrusions to their private lives. Police are scary to most people. No state legislature is going to pass a law that you cannot go to clergy.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    The world is evil. Civil authorities are repeatedly mocked.

    This applies only until WT needs something from the world...then suddenly it's a wonderful resource.

  • Separation of Powers
    Separation of Powers

    In the 70's and 80's, when a lot of this stuff was coming to light and the eldership was in its infancy, the congregation was indoctrinated to believe that the elder BODY, no longer the Congregation Servant, was in charge of their spiritual well-being. Therefore, in order to please the almighty, one needed to demonstrate faith and appreciation for this "new light" that was more in line with 1st century process. That being the case, everything from depression, attempted suicide, cheating spouses, business dealing gone awry, and, yes, child abuse issues, were entrusted to this group of men who were appointed by HOLY SPIRIT and approved with a little green check by the Governing Body (well, actually the little green check was from the Service Desk). To go outside of this judicial process, and yes, many references were made to the words of the Apostle Paul when he said:

    "When one of you has a dispute with another believer, how dare you file a lawsuit and ask a secular court to decide the matter instead of taking it to the believers!" (1 Corinthians 6:1 -New Living Translation)

    "Don't you realize that someday WE believers will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases?" ( 1 Corinthians 6:2-English Standard Version)

    Yes, these holy spirit appointed brothers were QUALIFIED to judge all matters. They were not INCOMPETENT. After all, the Bible said so. So, unfortunately, these men simply did what they were told. They were instructed to follow procedures that, in my opinion, highlighted the importance of the congregation's reputation over the welfare of the victim. The victim's family, if they were "full boat" witnesses, wanted to uphold this standard of righteousness and theocratic arrangement that they were taught to believe was the God SANCTIONED manner to address all issues. We see where that ended...don't we?

  • eyeuse2badub
    eyeuse2badub

    You shouldn't even have to ask that question. "Protect the org.", is first and foremost among dubs. When elders hear about a possible child abuse case, their instructions are to call the Legal Department of the WTBTS first. I've made several of those calls (in the presence of another elder)and one of the first things that we were asked was, "Who knows about this?"

    just saying

    eyeuse2badub

  • Magwitch
    Magwitch

    We had an elder in our hall that seemed to always be hosting a girl's sleepover for his 9 year old newly adopted daughter. Yes, come to find out he was molesting them. One young sister went straight to her mother the next morning after one of these infamous parties. The mother called the police before calling the elders. It broke the story wide open. He was DF'ed and then committed suicide the night before his sentencing. It split the congregation. Some were really angry with this sister for all the bad publicity in the papers (as if it was her fault)

    I wish they all were like this mother!!!!!!

  • FeelingFree
    FeelingFree

    Magwitch - Urgh that story turns my stomach, what a horrible man! That mother totally did the right thing. Yep if only more were like her.

    Eyeuse - Screw the org!

  • Wasanelder Once
    Wasanelder Once

    When you give authority over your life to others its not easy to take it back. Submit yourself to those taking the lead, right? So we did. So we suffered. So they get sued. Keep up the lawsuits you guys!

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