$$$Your denials may work with outsiders who are unfamiliar with the preaching of JW's. I was involved in the preaching work for almost 30 years. In all that time, the issue of Jesus' death, burial and resurrection and the forgiveness of sins was never, not once, raised while preaching at a door by me or anyone I observed. This includes circuit and district overseers who, one would think, should know what message they were supposed to be preaching. Occasionally, however, a householder would raise the subject. In that case, the JW would usually try to steer the conversation back to his canned presentation.$$$
Why did you not raise the issue? did you not read your Bible? If you were working with non, you know, Greg Stafford, Firpo Carr or countless others, you would definitely raised the issue. Anybody reading the Bible knows that we must preach about Jesus' resurrection and his death for sins.
$$$For you to claim that these topics are a prominent part of the public preaching of JW's is simply dishonest. Otherwise, why don't you refer me to some of the suggested presentations in the Kingdom Ministry where these themes are prominently featured?$$$
Non dont need no suggested presentation. The presentations are most designed for pragmatic reasons. They are just suggestions. Nothing prevents a witness from going to the door and preaching about Jesus death. You must remember that some householders associate the preaching of Jesus's death with Jesus freaks. that is why non mention pragmatic introductions. But non can talk about Jesus and does when he preaches.
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They did not preach about the established kingdom in 1914 because Jesus implied that this message would be preached in the last days as a continuation of the apostolic message. Matthew 24:14. Light had not yet gone forth yet.
The "good news of the kingdom" is not a different good news to be preached in the last days, but is the same good news of the death, burial and resurrection and the forgiveness of sins.$$$
Non did not say the good news today is different. It is the same message. The only difference is that jw preach about established kingdom today.
$$$We can inherit God's kingdom by accepting these provisions. Jesus "implied" nothing more than that. Claiming that he "implied" something merely creates an opening for you to fill in your own human ideas about what he was "implying".$$$
Are you denying that the early christian message declared that Jesus is king?
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The first century organization of God was the Christian congregation. Paul did teach that people in his day needed to become Christians to be saved.
The Christian church (or congregation) was not an organization. That is a Watchtower lie that is completely unsubstantiated by scripture. Any person who accepts the death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of his sins is a part of the true Christian church. The Watchtower prefers the use of the word "congregation" because it has a more organizational sound in English usage. But the Greek word,
ekklesia, simply means "called out ones." There is no organization involved in salvation.$$$
Non is having a hard time understanding your assertions. If the early Chriastians were a united worldwide brotherhood who heeded the apostolic teachings, then they were an organization by definition. It was not enough to accept basic truths about Jesus in the first century. One also had to adhere to christian truth without deviation.
Congregation or assembly is the correct way to understand ecclesia. You are guilty of the etymological fallacy when you assert that ecclesia means called out ones. That is wrong. Have you read DA Carson Exegetical Fallacies?
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$$$4. "Wicked persons" are defined as anyone who is not a member of God's true organization.$$$jw do not believe that.
You are a liar. That is exactly what they believe. Do I have to produce the quotations that have been repeated so many times in this forum to show that the Watchtower teaches that all those not associated with God's channel are deserving of destruction?$$$
You are only part right. jws also believe that God judges hearts of people. the wt has also said that there might be exceptions to the rule you are stating. Did you forget the article in 1971 wt question from readers about nonbaptized persons surviving armageddon? What about Revelation 18:4 about "my people"?
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You may have a point here. But non dares to say that you are not perfect either. What if you were put under a microscope? What cracks and defects might show in your little hide?
Plenty of defects, you can be sure. But then, I don't claim to be God's only spokesman on earth today, or the one whom people must align themselves with in order to be saved. When an individual or organization makes those claims, the standard of judgment is much higher$$$
It is right to expect great things from jw. It is just that out of all your criticisms, only one was valid. Your batting average not too good.
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If Paul was trying to associate new "converts" with the first century congregation then he did think it was necessary to be part of an organization.
Again, you reveal your organizational mentality. Paul was not converting people to some imaginary organization that you and the Watchtower claim existed back then. He was converting them personally to Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. It is Jesus Himself who is "the way, the truth and the life," not some organization.$$$
christians are not lone ranger types. One does not just become a christian and go her own way. Hebrews 10:24-25 show that early Christians viewed themselves as unit. 1 Peter 2:17 and 5:9.
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jws are not a filthy and corrupt organization.
Their scandals, false prophecies and lies demonstrate their filthiness and corruption far better than I could in any argument here.$$$
That is your perspective. You see mud and non see stars.
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Non does not read apostate materials. Thanks.
Sure you do, non. You read apostate materials every time you read a post from one of us ex-jw opposers of the Watchtower here. Do you really think it makes a difference if the material is formally packaged as a downloadable article?$$$
Non does not know if someone is df in this place unless they tell him. beside, non don't go out of his way to seek out material of opposers. He know jw have the truth.
$$$That statement eloquently demonstrates your dishonesty more than I would have imagined possible. You aren't even capable of being honest with yourself.$$$
Non very honest with self. Know self and to self be true.
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Apostates make one fatal flaw. They become fundamentalist in their thinking. They think that because the word "organization" does not occur in the bible, then God does not have an organization.
Isn't that precisely the argument JW's use to refute the Trinity?$$$
Some jw may use it. non do not.
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The word organization does not have to appear in the bible. The concept may and does appear.
Where?$$$
You have not been paying attention. Non has already shown you where concept appears. Read this post.
