Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

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  • Simon
    Simon

    Interesting background on the prosecutor. Sounds like he's overcome some challenges in life and continues to serve the community. If enything I think his experiences would make him sympathetic to victims of crime and I think the accusations of unfairness that have been thrown at him (completely unfounded) are very insulting.

    Just because some pre-judge everyone based on race they assume that everyone else will to. A more intelligent person knows that the black OR white guy that hurt them is different to the black OR white guy standing in front of them for some completely different reason. Wanting anyone of any race to pay for the crimes that someone of the same race committed seems to me to be the purest form of racism.

    I tried to search for the Palin quote and didn't find it but I found one where she thought the immigrants should be sent "back across the ocean to Mexico". When the interviewer told her you could drive to the Mexico border she said "I've been to Mexico and they have nice beaches, so they must have an ocean".

    Remember - she was very nearly one old white-guy's heart-attack away from being President

  • Shanagirl
    Shanagirl

    This is not the 50's and 60's of Selma Alabama, and Mississippi, and the South where evil racists murdered African Americans. I hate that the Michael Brown Tragedy is being portrayed that way. He's dead not because of race, but because of a series of very bad choices he made that day which led to his death...Tragically as a teen boy. He chose to rob a business owner and in doing so he became a thieving bully thug, towering over he store owner, violently shoving him as he made his way out the door and turning around again to threaten the man again as he made off with his stolen items. Police were called, and Officer Wilson responded. The fate of Michael Brown was in his own hands not Officer Wilson's. That boy had no business bullying that c op as he sat in his car with Michael's hand grabbing for his gun trigger. These law enforcement officers are the ones who keep us safe from the mobs who think like Michael Brown and his followers who later burned down their own business shop keepers, stole from them and also their own church. We are not in Selma Alabama, with Emmett Till nor, Mack Charles Parker, nor the 4 little girls all murdered by cruel white racists; this is 2014 with an elected Black President and his Administration. We do not need the Race baiting Hustlers .like Al Sharpton and his hordes profiting from thragedies within the African American Community and twisting it into deliberate racism. He's the Racist. He and his ilk have no standing and I can only believe that he was counting on the outcome that occured. .The race baiters have made a theiving violent thug into a martyr. He does not reflect the true heroes below, who much more represent the injustices that occurred against our African American fellow countrymen.

    Shana

    http://www.splcenter.org/civil-rights-memorial/civil-rights-martyrs

    Civil Rights Martyrs

    On the Civil Rights Memo

    rial are inscribed the names of individuals who lost their lives in the struggle for freedom during the modern Civil Rights Movement - 1954 to 1968. The martyrs include activists who were targeted for death because of their civil rights work; random victims of vigilantes determined to halt the movement; and individuals who, in the sacrifice of their own lives, brought new awareness to the struggle.

    The chronology below briefly describes their lives. More information is available at the Civil Rights Memorial Center.

    1955

    May 7, 1955 · Belzoni, Mississippi
    Rev. George Lee, one of the first black people registered to vote in Humphreys County, used his pulpit and his printing press to urge others to vote. White officials offered Lee protection on the condition he end his voter registration efforts, but Lee refused and was murdered.

    August 13, 1955 · Brookhaven, Mississippi
    Lamar Smith was shot dead on the courthouse lawn by a white man in broad daylight while dozens of people watched. The killer was never indicted because no one would admit they saw a white man shoot a black man. Smith had organized blacks to vote in a recent election.

    August 28, 1955 · Money, Mississippi
    Emmett Louis Till, a 14-year-old boy on vacation from Chicago, reportedly flirted with a white woman in a store. Three nights later, two men took Till from his bed, beat him, shot him and dumped his body in the Tallahatchie River. An all-white jury found the men innocent of murder.

    October 22, 1955 · Mayflower, Texas
    John Earl Reese, 16, was dancing in a café when white men fired shots into the windows. Reese was killed and two others were wounded. The shootings were part of an attempt by whites to terrorize blacks into giving up plans for a new school. (photograph unavailable)

    1957

    January 23, 1957 · Montgomery, Alabama
    Willie Edwards Jr., a truck driver, was on his way to work when he was stopped by four Klansmen. The men mistook Edwards for another man who they believed was dating a white woman. They forced Edwards at gunpoint to jump off a bridge into the Alabama River. Edwards’ body was found three months later.

    1959

    April 25, 1959 · Poplarville, Mississippi
    Mack Charles Parker, 23, was accused of raping a white woman. Three days before his case was set for trial, a masked mob took him from his jail cell, beat him, shot him and threw him in the Pearl River.

    1961

    September 25, 1961 · Liberty, Mississippi
    Herbert Lee, who worked with civil rights leader Bob Moses to help register black voters, was killed by a state legislator who claimed self-defense and was never arrested. Louis Allen, a black man who witnessed the murder, was later also killed.

    1962

    April 9, 1962 · Taylorsville, Mississippi
    Cpl. Roman Ducksworth Jr., a military police officer stationed in Maryland, was on leave to visit his sick wife when he was ordered off a bus by a police officer and shot dead. The police officer may have mistaken Ducksworth for a “freedom rider” who was testing bus desegregation laws.

    September 30, 1962 · Oxford, Mississippi
    Paul Guihard, a reporter for a French news service, was killed by gunfire from a white mob during protests over the admission of James Meredith to the University of Mississippi.

    1963

    April 23, 1963 · Attalla, Alabama
    William Lewis Moore, a postman from Baltimore, was shot and killed during a one-man march against segregation. Moore had planned to deliver a letter to the governor of Mississippi urging an end to intolerance.

    June 12, 1963 · Jackson, Mississippi
    Medgar Evers, who directed NAACP operations in Mississippi, was leading a campaign for integration in Jackson when he was shot and killed by a sniper at his home.

    September 15, 1963 · Birmingham, Alabama
    Addie Mae Collins, Denise McNair, Carole Robertson and Cynthia Wesley were getting ready for church services when a bomb exploded at the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church, killing all four of the school-age girls. The church had been a center for civil rights meetings and marches.

    September 15, 1963 · Birmingham, Alabama
    Virgil Lamar Ware, 13, was riding on the handlebars of his brother’s bicycle when he was fatally shot by white teenagers. The white youths had come from a segregationist rally held in the aftermath of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church bombing.

    1964

    January 31, 1964 · Liberty, Mississippi
    Louis Allen, who witnessed the murder of civil rights worker Herbert Lee, endured years of threats, jailings and harassment. He was making final arrangements to move north on the day he was killed.

    March 23, 1964 · Jacksonville, Florida
    Johnnie Mae Chappell was murdered as she walked along a roadside. Her killers were white men looking for a black person to shoot following a day of racial unrest. (photograph unavailable)

    April 7, 1964 · Cleveland, Ohio
    Rev. Bruce Klunder was among civil rights activists who protested the building of a segregated school by placing their bodies in the way of construction equipment. Klunder was crushed to death when a bulldozer backed over him.

    May 2, 1964 · Meadville, Mississippi
    Henry Hezekiah Dee and Charles Eddie Moore were killed by Klansmen who believed the two were part of a plot to arm blacks in the area. (There was no such plot.) Their bodies were found during a massive search for the missing civil rights workers Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner.

    June 21, 1964 · Philadelphia, Mississippi
    James Earl Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Henry Schwerner, young civil rights workers, were arrested by a deputy sheriff and then released into the hands of Klansmen who had plotted their murders. They were shot, and their bodies were buried in an earthen dam.

    July 11, 1964 · Colbert, Georgia
    Lt. Col. Lemuel Penn, a Washington, D.C., educator, was driving home from U.S. Army Reserves training when he was shot and killed by Klansmen in a passing car.

    1965

    February 26, 1965 · Marion, Alabama
    Jimmie Lee Jackson was beaten and shot by state troopers as he tried to protect his grandfather and mother from a trooper attack on civil rights marchers. His death led to the Selma-Montgomery march and the eventual passage of the Voting Rights Act.

    March 11, 1965 · Selma, Alabama
    Rev. James Reeb, a Unitarian minister from Boston, was among many white clergymen who joined the Selma marchers after the attack by state troopers at the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Reeb was beaten to death by white men while he walked down a Selma street.

    March 25, 1965 · Selma Highway, Alabama
    Viola Gregg Liuzzo, a housewife and mother from Detroit, drove alone to Alabama to help with the Selma march after seeing televised reports of the attack at the Edmund Pettus Bridge. She was driving marchers back to Selma from Montgomery when she was shot and killed by a Klansmen in a passing car.

    June 2, 1965 · Bogalusa, Louisiana
    Oneal Moore was one of two black deputies hired by white officials in an attempt to appease civil rights demands. Moore and his partner, Creed Rogers, were on patrol when they were blasted with gunfire from a passing car. Moore was killed and Rogers was wounded.

    July 18, 1965 · Anniston, Alabama
    Willie Brewster was on his way home from work when he was shot and killed by white men. The men belonged to the National States Rights Party, a violent neo-Nazi group whose members had been involved in church bombings and murders of blacks.

    August 20, 1965 · Hayneville, Alabama
    Jonathan Myrick Daniels, an Episcopal Seminary student in Boston, had come to Alabama to help with black voter registration in Lowndes County. He was arrested at a demonstration, jailed in Hayneville and then suddenly released. Moments after his release, he was shot to death by a deputy sheriff.

    1966

    January 3, 1966 · Tuskegee, Alabama
    Samuel Leamon Younge Jr., a student civil rights activist, was fatally shot by a white gas station owner following an argument over segregated restrooms.

    January 10, 1966 · Hattiesburg, Mississippi
    Vernon Ferdinand Dahmer, a wealthy businessman, offered to pay poll taxes for those who couldn’t afford the fee required to vote. The night after a radio station broadcasted Dahmer’s offer, his home was firebombed. Dahmer died later from severe burns.

    June 10, 1966 · Natchez, Mississippi
    Ben Chester White, who had worked most of his life as a caretaker on a plantation, had no involvement in civil rights work. He was murdered by Klansmen who thought they could divert attention from a civil rights march by killing a black person.

    July 30, 1966 · Bogalusa, Louisiana
    Clarence Triggs was a bricklayer who had attended civil rights meetings sponsored by the Congress of Racial Equality. He was found dead on a roadside, shot through the head. (photograph unavailable)

    1967

    February 27, 1967 · Natchez, Mississippi
    Wharlest Jackson, the treasurer of his local NAACP chapter, was one of many blacks who received threatening Klan notices at his job. After Jackson was promoted to a position previously reserved for whites, a bomb was planted in his car. It exploded minutes after he left work one day, killing him instantly.

    May 12, 1967 · Jackson, Mississippi
    Benjamin Brown, a former civil rights organizer, was watching a student protest from the sidelines when he was hit by stray gunshots from police who fired into the crowd.

    1968

    February 8, 1968 · Orangeburg, South Carolina
    Samuel Ephesians Hammond Jr., Delano Herman Middleton and Henry Ezekial Smith were shot and killed by police who fired on student demonstrators at the South Carolina State College campus.

    April 4, 1968 · Memphis, Tennessee

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Good post shanagirl, if it still was the 1950's/60's like your above post showed, then there wouldn't be an Al Sharpton, he'd probably be on that list too.

  • Ruby456
    Ruby456

    Shirley

    I wonder what simon is going to do about you calling me racist? other than that - NEVERMIND.

    simon - you misead my post.

  • Ruby456
    Ruby456

    pacapoolio - good points.

    bottom line governments ask scoiologists to do research and then they use that research to improve/make changes to society but with an eye on the electorate lest they alienate their own voters. or lest they listen too strongly to one group and neglect others.

    --------

    I'm not saying people shouldn't be responsible self reliant and engage in self help, What I am arguing against is foisting a narrative that suits one group onto another group (and I'm not talking about white people here, the group I am talking about are those who subscribe to victorian values and who can sometimes be very moralising about the behaviour of those they consider inferior and whom they want to improve).

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Two Black Panther Members Unable To Buy Bombs Because EBT Card Didn’t Have Enough Money

    1:02 PM 11/27/2014 KATIE FRATES Associate Editor

    Two men affiliated with the New Black Panther Party allegedly planned to murder Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson and St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch and bomb the Gateway Arch.

    In an undercover police sting, the two bought a pipe bomb, and intended to buy two more but couldn’t afford it until one man’s girlfriend’s Electronic Benefit Transfer card was refilled, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports.

    Brandon Orlando Baldwin and Olajuwon Ali Davis, who go by the names Brandon Muhammad and Ali, were indicted last week on weapons charges when Baldwin purchased two hi-point .45-caliber pistols intended for someone else.

    Between Nov. 1 and Nov. 13, Baldwin purchased the two guns at a Cabela’s in Hazelwood, and they were arrested Nov. 21. Additional charges for the planned bombing and murders are expected to be filed.

    Baldwin and Davis were arrested three days before McCulloch announced on Nov. 24 that Darren Wilson would not be indicted for the killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    Excellent post shanagirl - particularly your first paragraph. Your honesty is refreshing. The more black people have attitudes similar to yours the better.

    There is absolutely nothing in common between the killing of MB and the racist murder of Emmett Till.

    @pacopoolio - I agree that large scale societal change involves much more than the half-baked drivel I've been posting, but then I'm ignorant of Sociology and other thoroughly worthwhile degree subjects.

    Surely you must admit that as aplan for societal change is developed and enacted, responsibility and hard work must be stressed as a way to escape poverty.

    It was MBs fault on an individual level - he chose to rob a store, verbally abuse a cop, ignore instructions, try to take the cop's gun and charge the cop.

    I would like to give you a test case, for you to apply your sociology skills.

    In the UK in the 70s and 80s, racism was a big problem in football (soccer) grounds. Virtually every team had hardcore fans that would racially abuse referees, linesman, opposing players, even their own team's players if they performed badly. Sadly, monkey chants and throwing bananas onto the pitch were regular occurrances.

    At what level was it the racists' fault and how would you, as a sociologist, go about reforming 80s football fans?

    As far as I can see each racist fan was individually responsible for his own conduct - whether other factors influenced him like poverty, unhappy home life, limited education, low wages, unemployment, etc. cannot be used as an excuse.

    What say you?

  • talesin
    talesin

    We do not need the Race baiting Hustlers .like Al Sharpton and his hordes profiting from thragedies within the African American Community and twisting it into deliberate racism. He's the Racist. He and his ilk have no standing and I can only believe that he was counting on the outcome that occured. .The race baiters have made a theiving violent thug into a martyr. He does not reflect the true heroes below, who much more represent the injustices that occurred against our African American fellow countrymen.

    Shana

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Ruby456: Shirley, I wonder what simon is going to do about you calling me racist? other than that - NEVERMIND

    Here's the explanation (below) I gave in reply to your comments, Ruby456. I'm sure Simon has not crticized me for writing it because Simon, 1) actually reads posts before commenting on them, 2) he has the intelligence to understand what I am saying, as it is quite clear.

    "Without he or she being aware of it, Ruby456 is actually a racist. Whenever you have a prejudiced opinion that some group of people have no ability to better themselves, for whatever reason, in comparison to other groups, it works on the assumption they do not have the intelligence, will, or natural ability to do so. In other words, they are inferior."

    As long as you continue to repeat your assertions, Ruby, namely, that black people (or any other race) do not have the ability to better themselves and make their own decisions and choices in life, and will forever be victims of the 'boogeyman', then you are a racist. I, on the other hand, believe people of every ethnicity, color and race have the ability and potential to do whatever they want to do in life to better themselves and transecend mindless stereotypes such as the ones you paste on them. History has proven this true over and over again.

    Ruby456: simon - you misead my post.

    Amazing comment...coming from the queen of post-misreading.

  • Pacopoolio
    Pacopoolio

    It was MBs fault on an individual level - he chose to rob a store, verbally abuse a cop, ignore instructions, try to take the cop's gun and charge the cop.

    I would like to give you a test case, for you to apply your sociology skills.

    In the UK in the 70s and 80s, racism was a big problem in football (soccer) grounds. Virtually every team had hardcore fans that would racially abuse referees, linesman, opposing players, even their own team's players if they performed badly. Sadly, monkey chants and throwing bananas onto the pitch were regular occurrances.

    At what level was it the racists' fault and how would you, as a sociologist, go about reforming 80s football fans?

    As far as I can see each racist fan was individually responsible for his own conduct - whether other factors influenced him like poverty, unhappy home life, limited education, low wages, unemployment, etc. cannot be used as an excuse.

    If I'm talking about the individual in question, I would assign blame to their actions in talking directly to them, while being careful not to victim blame, depending on the instance (if someone is raped or robbed, you don't say "shouldn't have walked down that alley" to the person). Same for talking to an individual who says "M.B. was killed because he was black" (fallacy), or an individual that equates all black people to thugs (racism). But those are individual cases, and you frame it in that way because you can have an effect on that individual by framing it that way.

    When talking as a third party about the concept of large groups of people doing things, I don't blame it on the individual because I know that an individual is made up of influences from their surroundings.

    For instance, racism and racial prejudice is often caused by a mix of upbringing, limited experience with members of that race, a lack of education and other things. So to combat that, you would try to change those surrpunding influences en masse. There are a lot of ways to do this that I can't get into at the moment due to time.

    Michael Brown's case is a huge mix of combining issues on both sides; far too much to whittle down to "he shouldn't have done that" on either side.

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