by You Know 97 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
YK,
I say this before, but you are deluting your arguments by exccesive verbosity. Simplify.
You triying to reach the 'naive' right, naive people usually do not read too much, that is why they are what they are.
You are therefore not reaching the audience you pretend to reach, we dont "need" your light, most of us know what we are doing and why.
proverbs 20:19 "...so avoid a man who talks too much."
Prverbs also says too many words=sin
or dont you feel like throwing pearls...
I'm pretty sure its a sign of heavy denial on the part of most of the posters to this subject, when they deny the very real possibility of nuclear war.
Could it happen? Hell yes it could, just like if you drive around with dynamite in your trunk you could have an explosion.
Would it prove the Jehovahs Witnesses right? Hell no it wouldn't, no more than it would prove any other religion right or wrong.
So many people on this board get so tangled up in assuming everything is a question of proving or disproving the WT that they can't even think critically. Real waste of brain power.
By the way, aren't USA and Russias missile control systems still rigged to fire (against each other) when they pick up missile activity?
Might that not cause a serious problem if the mid-easts DO let missiles fly?
And if they do and its 'contained' in the mid east, will it not still be our problem as well, economy aside?
What I mean is there is no such thing as 'CONTAINING' nuclear friggin' fallout people!
Anybody remember Chernobyl? Well I do, I remember a little more than a week after the accident a grey shroud and constant mist moved over Oklahoma (where I lived), it didn't go away FOR MORE THAN TWO SOLID WEEKS. We literally didn't see the sun for two weeks, that was a very unique occurrence weatherwise, an occurence I have seen neither before or since.
Meanwhile the radioactivity test vehicles were roving around doing their testing . . .
Am I a doomsdayist? I don't think so, I'm not saying it WILL happen. I am however saying as long as we are driving around with dynamite in our trunk . . . we better take it slow over the bumps.
Raven101
raven-
I'm pretty sure its a sign of heavy denial on the part of most of the posters to this subject, when they deny the very real possibility of nuclear war.if you read back through all the posts, youll see that the majority of us have acutally openly stated that of course nuclear war is a real possibility. most thinking people that follow world events know this is a real possibility. with all the nuclear arms pakistan and india have at their disposal, how could it not be a possibility considering those two countries have already gone to war with each other three times?? of course its possible.
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By the way, aren't USA and Russias missile control systems still rigged to fire (against each other) when they pick up missile activity?
There is no centralized 'missile control system'. Indeed, it would be a critical failure of the nations defense if their was.
There is also no way to 'rig missiles to fire'. To fire a given missile requires presidential authorization (he gives the codes). Then, the codes are confirmed at each silo/sub. Then, on each silo/sub, 2 officers have to use 2 seperate keys simultaneously to release the missile controls.
Then, they can go through the process of making the missiles ready to fire (this takes time, too).
In short, nuclear missiles DO NOT fire as a result of an 'accident'.
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
raven,
Don't forget that if a treaty was signed completely abolishing the use of nuclear weapons worldwide, JWs would also point to that as being a sign of the end. Anything that happens is, to them, part of this long, vague rambling omen of doom.
Nuclear war is certainly a possibility, although I think it's unlikely. Either way, the Watchtower is an unimportant little cult which will be forgotten by history.
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Bad times, hard times - this is what people keep saying; but let us live well, and times shall be good. We are the times: Such as we are, such are the times. - St. Augustine, 354-430
What I mean is there is no such thing as 'CONTAINING' nuclear friggin' fallout people!
Anybody remember Chernobyl?
BIG difference between Chernobyl and nuclear weapons. Chernobyl was a conventional (pressure) explosion that blew tons of radioactive isotopes into the atmosphere.
The entire point behind a nuclear weapon is to have those very same isotopes (well, not the same, but you get the idea) completely transformed into energy instantly. The only radioactive 'fallout' is from the debris kicked up from the ground after the explosion, and the water vapor in the air displaced by the blast (which would minimize its city-levelling potential, so India and Pakistan certainly will have them go off higher against each other). Unless the bomb was set off and ground level or lower, the fallout would in fact be relatively very minimal.
Well I do, I remember a little more than a week after the accident a grey shroud and constant mist moved over Oklahoma (where I lived), it didn't go away FOR MORE THAN TWO SOLID WEEKS.
Uhhh...strange or not...you may rest assured that had nothing to do with Chernobyl. [8>] I'm sorry, that's just WEIRD thinking it did? Parts of the reactor were supposed to have fallen from the sky over Eastern Europe, but fallout never crossed the Atlantic. (Okay, so it did technically cross the Arctic Ocean, but never went further south than the very most Northern provinces in Canada).
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
Uhhh...strange or not...you may rest assured that had nothing to do with Chernobyl. [8>] I'm sorry, that's just WEIRD thinking it did?
lol.....xander, you were being quite kind when you stopped short and only called this a "weird" recollection.
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You Know,
Please explain to those of us who lack your advanced intelligence why there is a "shadow government" operating in Mount Weather just 40 miles from the Capitol since September 11, 2001?
Derrick
To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.
-- William Blake (Auguries of Innocence)
HAHA! Has anyone not spotted that the Witnesses aren't waiting for a WAR!!! They're supposed to be waiting for a DECLARATION OF PEACE!!!
"wars in one place after another" is supposed to be a SIGN OF THE LAST DAYS, the last days which began in 1799 according to early Watchtowers.
FunkyDerek, must agree with you, anything can be interpreted any way if one has blinders on.
Xander, I do not rest assured that the mystery mist had nothing to do with Chernobyl. Yes indeed it did cross the ocean, and I couldn't care less what your opinion of my thought process is.
Dubla, don't bother with the snyde little insinuations as to kindness, I have no need of yours or anybody elses in particular
Sincerely,
Raven101
