Finding out Who you really are

by Sentinel 32 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    Good Morning Everyone,

    I'm very new on here--just "born yesterday", as a matter of fact, but am finding out how wonderful it is to be able to be free to express thoughts and opinions, share ideas, give comfort, and find hope, within "these walls".

    I'm going to ask a question, and that is, how long did it take any of you souls out there to find your true self, after leaving JW's?

    I was very young when I was first introduced to the studies of JW's. We were a family of five, and I was the oldest. My brother had just been born. A year later at age 14, I got baptized in a NY river along with my mom, and thousands of other people. (I thought they would surely drown me, as I remember vividly, that we had to be totally submursed under the cold water--backwards!) Since I'd had an unfortunate experience when a little girl, with some old kids throwing me into deep water, I nearly had a panic attack, but survived.That was in 1960.

    I studied and applied myself, went door to door, was the perfect little specimen. But, after I got baptized, it seemed that things drastically changed for me, and I noticed it immediately. I couldn't ask any more deep questions. I have a naturally inquiring and inquisitive nature, and this really stumbled me. The reason they gave was because I could find all the answers I needed within the WT literature, and if it wasn't there, then it wasn't meant for me to know. I was also having other experiences that didn't fit into being a JW. I was told these were all from the devil, and that I must be doing some bad thing, and find out what it was, so it would go away. And, if I continued to pursue certain issues, then I would be labeled apostate. How horrible. Whoooaaahh. By the time I reached High School, I had applied myself diligently, and was a stand out to everyone, as there were only three JW's in the whole senior class of over 500. I kept trying to explain myself and my religion, and sometimes, the answers I gave just didn't settle right with me. Even at that, I still felt I had no choices. I began pioneering, and it last just over a year. They were so much more concerned with tallies and numbers, and I saw the inconsistencies even more.

    Still, I thought that this religion that my mom found had given us a place of refruge from our dysfunctional family issues, and they provided us with transportation to get to and from meetings, assemblies and conventions. Most of the individuals seemed really sincere. I had formed friendships, and had seen first hand the cost of "leaving the organization"--families split apart, parents from children, spouse from spouse. There was always some unhappy incident, and we were told we couldn't speak to these individuals again, until they repented, changed their course, and were accepted back in. This happened in my own family with my sibblings several times, and then finally with myself in '68. My mom and I had formed a closeness since I was a child, but I never realized how controlling she was, until I got older. When the JW's began to controll me as well, it was just too much. I tried so many times to discuss my issues with my mom or an Elder here and there, only to be told that "as a woman, I was overstepping my bounds"....that I should "just be content with the organization is dispensing", and STOP ASKING QUESTIONS. The label Apostate came up yet again. That scarred me.

    Living in so much disallusionment, being stiffled at every turn, made me into a lonely shell of a human being. Yet, I was still living within the bounds of my own family, and still a virgin at 21. Then, it happened. I met an outsider. An absolute no no. My mother freaked. She had been accusing me of things ever since my sister had done the deed and was out, now she wouldn't let up. Even when I tried to tell her that my experiences with so-called "brothers" ended up in a sexual wrestling match, she wouldn't listen. When I was forced to attend my prom with a JW, very nice, but whom I instinctively knew was homosexual, that really did something to me. I began to rebell slowly, but all in all it was a matter of just trying to free myself from being strangled by an organization that controled my every move. I just wanted to find me.

    In my attempt to find me, of course, I tested the waters of life, and engaged in dating a non-believer. And, in the course of natural events, having fallin deeply in love, as my mother said: "you've ruined yourself, and now no decent brother will ever want you." I was haunted by those words. I immediately confessed my first incident with the Elderes, upon which they promptly decided to DF me. When they cast me out, then my mother, who controlled the girls in the family, cast me out as well. Out into that scarry world, cut off from family and friends that I had made since I was 13. I didn't even have a relationship with my relatives that was close anymore. My mother had efectively cut the ties there as well. I was floundering and lost. Ended up marrying this fellow and having a son.

    Problem was, and I really didn't mean to get so l o n g here right now, is that I really didn't have a clue "who I was", "what I wanted", "where I was headed". I felt totally sinful, lost and unloved. I kept trying to keep from flipping out mentally, and I just basically rode the waves of life, day by day. I certainly wasn't living my life normally.

    I was still very much borg, even though they had removed some of the "safety features" for me. I felt like I didn't belong anywhere, because I still felt that I had to get back in for my life to be saved at armegeddon. Now it was just my own self to consider, but the love of my life, and my new baby. There was a big weight on my shoulder, and I carried that weight--not very well. So I groveled and pleaded and did all the necessary steps to get back in. I was too unsure of myself, too ill-equiped to survive out in "the world run by Satan".I needed my family's love and acceptance. I didn't want to die at armegeddon. I had a son to think about.

    It didn't take long after I got back in to begin to feel like "I was strapped and tied up again", unable to be myself, so I put on an act. I attended meeting here and there, managed to continue on the Ministry School for awhile longer, and then gradually, over a decade, slipped quietly away. No one really even noticed, except my dear mom, who was "on my back" every single day, trying to be my conscience.

    Now that I look back on those days, I wonder how I survived emotionally. Of course we are all from different backgrounds, and our upbringing is differently. We are shaped and molded by our surroundings, many times before JW's even appear. But the hold they had on me in those days is mindbending to me right now as I reflect on the great intimidation I lived under. It affected every aspect of my being.

    It has taken me nearly a lifetime to get to this place I am now. Through much pain, self anaylisis, emotional breakdowns, stress, health issues. But, I was sure of one thing, even then, that the truth really was out there, and it had nothing to do with JW's, and little to do with the Bible. It had to do with the Soul's journey and the lessons it has to learn. So when I decided to get off the merry-go-round in 1981, it was an absolute, clean cut. I knew the cost, and paid the price. But, I have never once regretted my decision. I didn't realize, however, how it would affect my husband, who spiraled even more out of control, and took his own life. That threw me into total guilt and despair for many years.

    I feel like a whole human being at last, having had an epiphany in late '01, after two years of intense self-evaluation. I had remarried in '85, and raised three step-sons. I had approached menopause, and still I felt lost. With two step granddaughters, I knew I still had lots of work to do inside myself. It was painful to open it all up again, but when I did, I finally "let go of control". The experience changed my whole life, and yet=nothing has really changed at all. It is an awareness of my soul's journey, and the place I hold in the universe, and the great spiritual journey that I have been on all my life. The biggest thing is that I finally learned to love myself, and that I am worthy of that love.

    I'd love to hear your experiences and to share information about the journeys of our souls. How many of you are into another faith/religion, or how many have found the truth through spirituallity alone.

    Love and Light to all of you dear people,

    Sentinel

  • crawdad2
    crawdad2

    hi sentinel,

    i understood your journey very well.

    i am still on that jouney, finding out about myself and understanding myself.

    being caught in a mind control trap like the jw organization, was a big lesson........ one that nearly caused me to end it all.

    your post was full of love.......... i hope to hear alot more from you.

  • Psychdigg
    Psychdigg

    People blame too much on the Watchtower. It becomes a catch basin for all their tears. Growing up is tough. Don't confuse the maturational process with Watchtower influence. Orthodox religious beliefs no matter what religion often bring a person in conflict with the world around them.

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    Hello again, and thank you for your kind words.

    As my "name" indicates, I feel that as a Sentinel, I can be on the watch, and look for anyone who might need a bit of love and encouragement. I have lived through much pain, and I can speak from experience.

    I'm 56 next month, but feel so fresh and new, and alive. The way I was living my life before, even nearly 20 years after "getting out" , was so --well, not really living at all, just plain "existing". And, there is so much more to this beautiful life.

    The road I'm on, as I said is spiritual. It has nothing to do with any mainstream religion or cult. I judge no one and am totally open minded to all honest expressions.

    I'm so glad that you chose life. I was faced with the same decision when I was first DF'd for confessing having lost my virginity to someone I loved. The Elders didn't believe me. They said that I must be pregnant and that is why I am confessing. They didn't know me at all. They were my judge and jury. I thought then, "where is my Jah?". Then, when I got home after that meeting, my mother promptly just told me to get out...and I continued to wonder, "where is God, where is love?"

    You know I just realized that in my initial opening thread above, I said there were five in our family. How odd that I would make that error, but actually, how accurate in reality. As my dad never bonded with me, never took any interest in my life, never held a conversation with me--nothing. We tried to repair things about ten years ago, but it was very strained. I always loved him so, but never felt his love in return until the very end. I was a WWII baby, and I was born a girl. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE TO HIM AND HIS FAMILY. And, in the end, it was really too late for us to salvage the relationship. He was going to die, and he did in Jan. of 2000. An end of an era, so to speak. (So, our family really was six in number, not five.) He was on his own journey and probably still is. We communicate now, because I speak to him regularly, and tell him how good I'm doing. I know now that his soul is still alive and well, even if his human body is gone. I have three sibblings, as I am the oldest.

    My mom is just "unreachable" these days. She lives 1,000 miles away from me, but even the telephone does not "connect" us in a meaningful way anymore. She is total borg in every sense. If they told her to go and jump off a mountain, she would not hesitate. She looks to the Elders as GODS, and is constantly saying that those in our family who do not have the truth, "are blinded to the truth, and will never see the paradise." It upsets me that SHE continues to be so judgmental, in saying that "it's too bad, we will all die soon"...like I said, dysfunctional family, dysfuntional religion.

    Take care and keep hope alive. Trust your instincts and plead to "the ONE of ONE", whom I recognize as an entity or entities who know all. They will help you in ways you cannot imagine. You will find true peace and contentment. You may of course, choose another name for the "creator(s)", as I feel comfortable referring to them the way I do, you may be comforted in chosing another name.

    Your soul is traveling the road it was meant to travel. Take the good from all you find, and discard the rest. You are free to pick and choose your destiny, you are free to make your own choices. And, that my friend, is worth any price we had to pay to "get out".

    Write me again,

    Love and LIght

    Karen

  • scootergirl
    scootergirl

    Sentinel...

    I read your post this morning while having coffee and had time to really think about what you said. I could relate to what you posted.

    Speaking for myself, I feel like I had an identity crisis. The Organization was my life-it was all I ever really knew. I didn't have outside friends/relatives anymore because the borg warned against it, so I surrounded myself w/"Friends". I was told what to think, what to study, told not to question, told to listen and wait. As long as I walked that fine line, my world would be okay. Once I stepped off I was let go of everything familiar to me. The problem that really plagued me was as a teenager I don't feel that I was prepared for adulthood. Think about, growing up is the time when we are suppose to have the love and support of family and friends to learn about life, find out who we are, make the needed decisions to prepare us for adulthood. I truely feel that I was emotionally handicapped for the "real" world and hence, made lots of mistakes that "normal" kids probably made during their teenage times (only thing is I was considered an "adult"). I was a cameleon...I had no idea who I really was, so I would take on the personalities (likes, dislikes) of those around me. It wasn't until the last few years that I really discovered who I am.

    I don't know if this makes any sense or not....I just feel that after a person leaves, there is a process that takes awhile to "find yourself" and in due time, a person does. It takes awhile to shake off the way of thinking that was so ingrained in all of us.

    Welcome Sentinel! Thanks for sharing such a personal post and I am looking forward to getting to know you better.

  • SYN
    SYN

    Hi Sentinel, it's refreshing to see someone posting so clearly and writing so well, you will be a great addition to the boards!

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    Yes, Psychdigg,

    What you say has true merit. But, if you read again, you will note how I discussed that peoples various environments shaped them long before JW's took hold. That I identified being in a dysfunctional family to begin with...

    I agree, many religions have similar "holds" on people. Also individual phychies may already be damaged from genetic makeup. However it occurs, it still occurs. And, some of us have had experiences much more profound than others. It is these experiences, when shared, that help us grow as human beings....past narrowmindedness and into the light.

    I do appreciate your reply, and welcome any other responses.

    I have taken the good, and there was much good, from the JW experience, but have disposed of the negative influence. I realize that there are many more experiences out there, as we are all just trying to find our way.

    Peace and Light,

    Karen

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    Hi Scootergirl,

    Your response was from the heart. Thank you for sharing your experience with me.

    It is a long journey isn't it? But, well worth the end result.

    I'm thinking that if I had this place to go to years ago, it would have helped me a great deal.

    Now, we can still help each other to grow and become the people we were meant to be.

    All things in Love,

    Karen

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    Good Morning SYN,

    Thank you for your expression of acceptance here.

    I will look forward to more communication from my new friends.

    We are all growing.

    Love and Light,

    Karen

  • scootergirl
    scootergirl

    psychdigg......I agree that "growing up is tough" BUT I have to say I don't know too many religions out there that have rules about "worldly associations". Not many religions out their have such a control in young people's lives at the jws. Yes, growing up is hard let alone adding "outcast" to the ordeal.

    In our congregation you were not allowed to go to any sporting events ("bad" associations), dances ("bad" associations), no friendships w/those NOT a JW ("bad" associations). Any organization w/in Highschool (i.e, band, choir, Honors Society etc.) was frowned up PLUS you better think twice about heading off to college because you just might "stumble your brother".

    I believed the WT, believed everything it said, everything that the borg told me to. I thought that to have complete faith in Jehovah it was to follow all these idiotic rules. I also lived in fear. Fear that if I stepped outside the line of thinking I would be outed. When I made a mistake, comitted a "sin", I was terrified of having the borg and Jah turn away from me. I grew up thinking "conditional" love was the only way. Everything was so black and white. I was a number, a memeber, not "me"....

    When I questioned certain beliefs I was insubordinate. They sure got rid of me quick.

    You tell me what religion out there teaches this? I am married to a Catholic (non-practicing but was raised) and yes, they (as well as any religions) have their problems, but I will tell you. He has 5 siblings-each that have taken their own path in life and never once did his devote catholic mother and father turn their back on them at the prompting of the church.

    To each their own thinking but I will tell you, I will never raise my children with such extreme rules and regulations that it stifles them. I will always encourage my children to think for themselves, to questions, and to challenge.

    Edited by - scootergirl on 9 June 2002 12:15:20

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