All Christians Should Accept EVOLUTION (page 5)

cofty

do you believe "reality", as it is known to man, remains the same throughout time?

I'm not sure I understand the question.

Evolution is based on a study of objective evidence. It doesn't depend on opinions or preferences.

Every living thing descended from a common ancestor. There is no other possible way to explain the abundance of evidence from multiple independent fields of study.

It is also open to falsification. One rabbit fossil in a preCambrian rock strata would blow it to smithereens. So far so good.

"Reality" is what we understand it to be today is it not? What I mean is, "reality" changes when our perceptions of reality change. So in truth, what we call "reality" today may be disproved tomorrow. Science itself has proven this true.

cofty

Is the earth flat or approximately spherical?

Does the earth revolve around the sun or does the sun revolve around the earth?

Is the moon made of green cheese?

There are some things we know for a certainty. These things will always be true.

Evolution is one of these things.

Hold Me-Thrill Me

There are some things we know for a certainty. These things will always be true.
Evolution is one of these things.

I hope some day to meet and discuss all this stuff in person. Until then I'm your friend, (if you would have me) even though we are at different ends of a spectrum.

Frank

cofty

Best wishes Frank.

A couple of hours over a few pints of real ale and we would sort this out.

Hold Me-Thrill Me

Cheers Cofty!

opusdei1972

There is no contradiction between accepting evolution and believing in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no reason you can't believe in both Jesus saving us from sin and that evolution was the natural process God used to create life on earth.

The problem is that Jesus and his apostles believed that Adam was the first man. However, Adam is the personage of a myth who born just 4000 years before Christ. But we know that the first men lived 200 000 years ago, and most probably they came from Africa and not from the garden of Eden which was, according to the Bible, in the Middle East, situated somewhere near where the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers are today. So, why should believe in the Gospel of Jesus, knowing that this Gospel contains serious errors????

Doltologist

Opusdei1972

The problem is that Jesus and his apostles believed that Adam was the first man. However, Adam is the personage of a myth who born just 4000 years before Christ. But we know that the first men lived 200 000 years ago, and most probably they came from Africa and not from the garden of Eden which was, according to the Bible, in the Middle East, situated somewhere near where the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers are today. So, why should believe in the Gospel of Jesus, knowing that this Gospel contains serious errors????

Clearly, we shouldn't.

sir82

Fundamentalist Christians, including JWs, already do accept evolution as true - even if they don't recognize it.

Fundamentalist Christians, including JWs, take at face value the account of Noah's flood as described in Genesis.

How many animal "kinds", "types", "species", pick your word, could fit in a boat of those dimensions? A few hundred, or maybe a few thousand.

Today there are several hundred thousand species of insect alone, and 10's of thousands of other species.

From a few hundred or thousand species, to hundreds of thousands today, in ~4000 years?

Fundamentalist Christians, including JWs, already believe in evolution - but the evolution they believe in is wildly accelerated from what any "secular" scientists propose.

FusionTheism

opusdei1972,

How do we know Jesus or the disciples viewed Adam as a literal person who actually existed?

Jesus always spoke in parables. A parable is a fictional story with fictional characters and is used to teach deeper moral truths.

Since Jesus was so accustomed to speaking about fictional characters, why should we assume that when it came to Adam, He must have viewed him as literal?

Plus, in Galatians, Paul says Sarah and Hagar are allegorical characters foreshadowing the two groups in his day:

1. Early Christians.

2. Jews who opposed Christians.

It was common for First-Century Christians to interpret the Old Testament as allegory.

All Christians Should Accept EVOLUTION

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