All Christians Should Accept EVOLUTION (page 6)

Doltologist

FT

How do we know Jesus or the disciples viewed Adam as a literal person who actually existed?

Whoa there musky. Let's not get ahead of our selves.

First, we have to establish that jesus and his disciples existed, no?

FusionTheism

Doltologist,

Well, we can start with this: Are there any professional historians who say Jesus and Paul were not real people who existed?

Even highly skeptical Bart Ehrman, and the very skeptical Jesus Seminar people said that Jesus was a real person who existed.

I've never heard any scholar, expert, historian, or even atheist, doubt the existence of Paul.

Doltologist

FT

Well, we can start with this: Are there any professional historians who say Jesus and Paul were not real people who existed?

What? er - YES!

Where have you been living? Mars?

Type Dr Richard Carrier into Youtube, watch and listen. You may learn something.

At about the time of jesus, they were fusing two or more religions together to form a new one. But, that wasn't the only thing they were up to. They were personalising deities too. But, that wasn't the only thing they were up to. They were converting their 'heavenly' gods and giving them Earthly existences. Ever wondered why a lot of the things that happened to jesus also happened to some of the gods before him such as being born of a virgin and rising from the dead and having 12 disciples? Do you really believe in coincidences to that extent?

Ever wondered why the Josephus text was amended by early x-tians?

I don't have issue with Ehrman but things have moved on.

FusionTheism

Doltologist,

I'll check out Richard Carrier.

There's still that nagging question about WHY 99% of historians BEFORE this totally atheist blogger and author said Jesus was a real person.

What did all of those historians screw up on that caused them to believe Jesus existed? What did they get wrong?

And if we can't believe Jesus was a real person, why should we believe ANYONE from the history books was a real person?

FusionTheism

Let's go one hypothetical step farther:

For the sake of argument, let's say Jesus never actually existed, but First-Century Jews invented Him and used His story as a parable.

It's been 2,000 years, and atheists are STILL using the moral principles and values espoused in this "mythological parable."

Atheists still haven't come up with a better moral system than the Golden Rule or the total equality found in Galatians 3:28.

Doltologist

FT

There's still that nagging question about WHY 99% of historians BEFORE this totally atheist blogger and author said Jesus was a real person.

Carrier is one of the most respected people in his field. If you are going to get involved in discussions of this nature, you really do need to keep up with essential reading.

What did all of those historians screw up on that caused them to believe Jesus existed? What did they get wrong?

Because 2,000 years ago some christards wrote a piece of obscene shit and lies called the babble and then murdered anyone who said that they didn't believe it. 2,000 years of turdology has had its effect on mankind Even today, those who claim that the sky wizard doesn't exist are given a hard time - mainly by brainwashed chistards and religtards.

Jesus isn't just ANYONE. He's a mythical being that believers have been responsible for the death of between 100 - 200 million people. That doesn't include the millions that were 'only' raped, pillaged, tortured and enslaved.

You listened to Carrier yet or are you still coming off outdated garbage?

Doltologist

FT

It's been 2,000 years, and atheists are STILL using the moral principles and values espoused in this "mythological parable."

More christurdology. It presumes that Athists couldn't have created a moral code for themselves.

Stop now. You are looking even more stupid than you usually do.

FusionTheism

But why are atheists still following the Golden Rule and Galatians 3:28?

Why haven't you invented a better moral system than those two Scriptures?

How did uneducated fishermen 2,000 years ago teach the two greatest moral ideas, which you still abide by now?

Also, why was it Christians who abolished slavery and segregation instead of atheists?

Billyblobber

The Golden Rule existed long before Jesus, all across the world. And it's not what everyone follows, anyway.

Secular humanism is a better moral philosophy than those two scriptures.

See above.

There were relatively fewer atheists at that point and time, and it's irrelevant, anyway, since more Christians practiced slavery than atheists as well.

Doltologist

FT

Atheists still haven't come up with a better moral system than the Golden Rule or the total equality found in Galatians 3:28.

And no one has come up with a better way of being two-faced about it than christards.

All Christians Should Accept EVOLUTION

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