Is There a HELL ??

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  • gumby
    gumby

    Let's see.......we sin for 70 or 80 years.....we don't repent and accept Christ and.....

    the consequence is so just and fair............ETERNAL DAMNATION OF EXTREME PAIN AND PUNISHMENT......FOREVER!

    Now that seems like a just thing for a loving God to do. Especially when most of these people are nice people. Many are not convinced of the "true way" and so because of this.....they will be punished forever!

    Do some of you really believe this?

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    True that is what the churches are teaching. There are those who know better at the Kingdom Hall. They know this is not the time for judgement but a time for learning about Jehovah's Kingdom. Without this basic knowledge many do not have much of a chance when it comes time to be judged. Mankind will have a chance to be perfect for a day (1000 years) and then be judged when Satan is let loose.

    True Christians carry on what Jesus did regarding the Lords prayer and other teachings from the great teacher. We even have a book "The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived".

  • gumby
    gumby

    True Christians carry on what Jesus did regarding the Lords prayer and other teachings from the great teacher

    What did jesus DO, regarding the Lord's prayer? I am facinated that the JW's are the only true christians who DO this. What are these "teachings" from the great teacher that only TRUE christians do? Can you tell me more? I would like to learn of this religion of yours......it sounds so new and different!

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    Understanding the Lord's Prayer. From the April 1,2002 Watchtower. Page 5 and 6.

    To see the difference between having an accurate knowledge of the Bible and having a passing acquaintance with what it says, let us consider what is commonly called the Our Father, or the Lord's Prayer, recorded at Mathew 6:9-13.

    Millions regularly recite Jesus' model prayer in church. But how many have been taught its meaning, especially the first part of the prayer dealing with God's name and Kingdom? These subjects are so important that Jesus placed them first in the prayer.

    It begins: "Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified, " meaning hallowed, or made holy. Note that Jesus said to pray for God's name to be sanctified. To many people, that raises at least two questions. First, what is God's name? And second, why does it need to be sanctified?

    The answer to the first question can be found in over 7,000 places in the Bible in its original languages. One is at Psalm 83:18: "That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth." Concerning the divine name, Jehovah, Exodus 3:15 says: "This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation."* But why does the name of God, which is the very epitome of purity and holiness, need to be sanctified? Becouse it has been reproached and maligned from the very beginning of human history.

    *Some scholars prefer the rendering "Yahweh" instead of "Jehovah." However, most modern Bible translators have erased God's name from their versions in any form, replacing it with the generic titles "Lord" or "God." For an in-depth discussion of God's name, please see the brochure The Diine Name That Will Endure Forever, published by Jehovah's Witnesses.

    In Eden, God told Adam and Eve that they would die if they ate the forbidden fruit. (Genesis 2:17) Satan brazenly contradicted God, saying to Eve: "You positively will not die." Hence, Satan accused God of lying. Yet, he did not rest there. He heaped still more reproach on God's name, telling Eve that God was unjustly withholding valuable knowledge from her. "For God knows that in the very day of your eating from [the tree of the knowledge of good and bad] your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like God, knowing good and bad." What slander! -Genesis 3:4,5

    By partaking of the forbidden fruit, Adam and Eve took thier stand with Satan. Most humans since then, knowing or not, have added to that original reproach by rejecting God's righteous standards. (1 John 5:19) People still malign God by blaming him for their own bad ways. "A man's own folly wrecks his life, and then he bears a grudge against the Lord," says Proverbs 19:3 (The New English Bible) Can you see why Jesus, who truly loved his Father, prayed that His name be sanctified?

    I will cover the rest of the Lords prayer at a later time. It will be in this topic or I might make a new topic and cut paste this part on it. My Watchtower Library only goes to 1999.

  • gumby
    gumby

    Millions regularly recite Jesus' model prayer in church. But how many have been taught its meaning, especially the first part of the prayer dealing with God's name and Kingdom? These subjects are so important that Jesus placed them first in the prayer.

    Especially Gods name you say.

    Why didn't Jesus use this NAME in the prayer instead of ' father' ? If his name is SO important...how ,come he didn't tell us HOW to say it? Isn't it Yahweh?It says thats the proper way to say it in your large print bible preface. How come you don't use the proper name? Does sanctifying his name mean telling people what his name is.....or is it his character? I don't know of any christians who are not familiar with the name Jehovah. It's in all their songbooks.

    How many have been taught it's meaning you say.

    Well....what do most christians think "let your kingdom come" means? Don't they too think Jesus will come.....or do they? All christians I know believe Jesus will reign on the earth for a 10000 years.....isn't that what you believe?

    So tell me......how are you different?

    Time for you to quit being judgemental of other christians and quit being brainwashed that you folks are the only ones with a hope.....how arrogant can you be?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    JW's were the first to put the Bible in Modern English.

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    It's 1000 years and 1000 days to us is one day to Jehovah.

  • gypsywildone
    gypsywildone

    Lol, hell is being at an assembly in July, watching yet another mind numbing talk or cheap drama, while your friends are at the pool!
    Hey, think I'll sue watchtower for money spent on sun screen.

  • The Devil
    The Devil

    Yes, Hell does exist. But I wouldn't necessarily call it torment (to me anyway).

    Lucifer

  • MrMoe
    MrMoe

    there is a hell, just ask me on an off day - then sometimes you are allowed to go up and catch a glimpse of heaven, and this makes life worthwhile, but then it seems u go right back to hell, cause u don't get to see heaven for very long

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