It is a commonly held viewpoint in my community that many of our women tend to be loud-mouthed and *too* assertive. -- teejay
>> Or could it be just a response to YOU?
I don't know, but i see that as a sort of insult, Plm. Uncalled for, at that. Since you've gotten here, I thought that you and I were cool. Maybe I was wrong.
Several of those posting in this thread have gotten needlessly personal and insulting toward each other while I have (and will continue) to refrain from doing so. It's really... well... in poor taste. While my viewpoints may not always be in agreement with others, they are always honest and I work to offer them without attacking people or making unfair / unkind assertions. But, that's me.
I will answer your question/assertion, however.
Due to circumstances far beyond your control, you may never be able to engage in honest dialog with a collection of outspoken Black women on any given subject. Over the years, I have had that exact pleasure many many times. And on this very subject, I might add.
Never, not once, has any such group ever denied what I have said here. It is more or less an accepted fact, with or without my involvement with the woman(women) in question, that an inordinately high percentage of Black women (even young ones) have a hardness, an over-assertiveness, that women of other races typically do not have. Instead of denying that it never happens or pointing to teejay as the cause of their demeanor (those who know me would laugh at such an assertion!), they simply make excuses for their behavior. Usually, the main reason given is the one Dutchie pointed to above. It carries little weight with me.
Also above in an excellent contribution to this discussion, Perry points to another reason why they act the way they do toward their men. The gist of what he said is an oft-heard refrain from the Sisterhood.