>> Teejay, You have a daughter who you love very much. I know you would never want her to grow up to be treated as a sex object, controlled or forced into submissivness by a man or anyone for that matter.
Of course not, Heaven!
But let's face facts. If/when she meets her man, part of her appeal will be sexual... meaning that (somewhat) he will most likely view her as a sex object. It won't mean he's a bad person, only a man. One of the reasons your husband was attracted to you was because he saw you and had the hots for that body. You know it, I know it. What's wrong with acknowledging it?
Wanting a woman who is securely in touch with her feminine side is something all men want, whether they own up to it or not. That's all I've said here. I don't agree with everything 4skins has said, but what he's said, at its core, is true.
Women lose a large part of their appeal when the go overboard and become so assertive that they border on bitchiness. It is a commonly held viewpoint in my community that many of our women tend to be loud-mouthed and *too* assertive. Even our women will openly admit that it is a problem for many of them. What many fail to realize is that they have a their disposal unique charms that they could use to help them get everything they could want and be way further ahead. That is the message I hope to pass along to my daughter.
There's nothing wrong with standing up for yourself, being independent, assertive; but a woman can go too far and some do. Females don't do well when they try to impersonate men.
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I know most women entertain fantasies of being raped and men entertain raping.
You mean that's NOT a fantasy of some women? Hmmm. I thought it was. Seriously. I don't know about "the most" part, though. Everybody is different.
TeeJay, I'm surprised you fell for this jokester! Can't you see he's having fun?
Clearly, some of his comments have been over the top and I don't cosign along with every single one of his statements. Clearly, some have been said to provoke and they have accomplished *that* goal. I mean... saying that he hasn't seen any feminine women in this thread is absurd. And after Xena's pic? Please!
Still, as I've said all along in this thread, men generally like their women to look, act, talk, walk and dress -- for the lack of a better expression -- like women. THAT is true.