The long awaited Dossier on Iraq UK Position (page 4)

Realist

Crazy151drinker,

yes hitler was a nutcase no question about it.

again if englan would havebeen the only enemy then yes germany would have won. but that wasn't the situation.

the territories of poland that hitler might have anexed would have become part of germany of course (as they were before the first WW).

the number of 6 year old girls strapped to tables is (if that is at all true ...were did you hear this) certainly very limited. no country would declare war on another because of something like this.

the inhabitants of bikini didn'T only get scrwed but died of cancer...i am not sure if this is very humane either. also the us gov. did tests on prisoners etc....they even treaed black people with placebos against i think it was lepracy to see how the desease proceeds...not very humane either.

i think what germany did before the war started was not at all unpresidented.

TTBoy

So ill"logical"ly - you are saying that Iraq needs to commit a 9/11 for us to preempt any strike against them. Do you REALLY think that is logical thinking? Wait for thousands of innocent people to be killed (like in WWII) before we act?

The UN has made 12-13 resolutions to have Iraq under-go unhindered weapon inspections. Do you deny that? Has Iraq basically said FU to the UN security counsel? 12-13 resolutions and non-compliance by Iraq. You are wrong, period. There is no diplomatic resolution to this situation because he has said F'OFF for over ten years.

Is Iraq a threat? Ask it's neighbors. Sure, give him nukes or technoligy to make/use them. Then, you need to move to Isreal. Live there a few years under threat of some insane toltalitarian dictator.

And by the way....doesn't the US own your country? (if that's where you are really from) Do we not give you millions of dollars because you can't generate sufficient income to support yourself? Doesn't your contry fall under the US' protection?

Will people die - YES! - innocent ones? YES! It's people like you who would take a bus to Canada to aviod the draft Oh wait you are in the Virgin Islands and can sit on your ass and do nothing. I'm 30 yrs old and would be more than happy to pick up a gun against my fellow "I want to kill innocent people" brother. If eveyone sat on their apathetic butts Hitler would be ruling the world.

I think of the people celebrating in the streets when they heard of the death of thousands of non-military personel after 9/II in the middle east.

I forgot to add that the countries we "destroy", using my tax dollars, are rebuilt, using my tax dollars, and become a productive part of a global economy, using my tax dollars
(Germany/Japan.) What happens when we have hippie/pussy/peace/love/no war? We have a failed cause (Vietnam/Koreah) BARF!

The US also does not get involved militaraily unless there are serious human rights violations from ONE sick dictator. As for countries who stone people and kill woman who aren't virgins...they are allowed to promote their sick justce. Don't come to our country and kill non-military personel.

TT

Edited by - TTBoy on 24 September 2002 17:55:34

Edited by - TTBoy on 24 September 2002 18:6:46

kelsey007

What the hell- let me put in my two cents worth. I tend to agree with logical. However, what of all the other countries that are abusing the human rights of their citizens? I still can't get our of my mind the young lady in Africa who is to be stoned to death for haing a baby out of wedlock. And please remember that we, the US, empowered the Taliban and were aware of the atrocities they were committing against their women and children for a decade. We had video tapes of women being beheaded on the soccer field way before 9-11. They would stop in the middle of a game, drive a pickup out to the middle of the field and chop off heads in front of the sports spectators- children and all. We did not do crap for those people until it became a US political issue WHICH WE HAVE YET TO FINISH! Now with some 7,000 US troops still fighting in Afganastan we are going to dispurse more troops to another region? We would all love to see Sadam out of power. But Sadam has no more capabilities today than he did 10 years ago. The approach this administration is going for is going to put us into a worldwide Vietnam. When we put Sadam on the run then we will put into place another puppet government that will bleed our economy even dryer. We need to take a long hard look at what we are doing. Bush is still trying to maintain or regain a mementum from 9-11 when his approval rate soared. Hostory should teach us something- but NO ONE wants to slow down and look at history beyond a couple of years.

truthseeker1

Realist, (im using truths account becuase I maxed out)

There was a hour long show on the History Channel detailing the medical abuses commited by the Germans before and during the war. One of them was twins experiments. The would take a pair of twins and systimaticly starve one. Later, they would disect the twins (while alive) and compare them phsyically to see what type of changes happened to the body. In their quest for the master race, the germans opperated on women (also alive and without pain killers) in an attempt to make the Jewish women surrogate mothers for the Master Race. IT WAS SICK. I had to turn it off half way through- I just couldnt handle it. How someone can systimaticly carve up little kids in the intrest of 'medicine' is beyond me.

-Crazy

truthseeker1

Kelsey,

Vietnam was %!@#$ becuase we allowed Politicians to make Military Decisions. We never invaded the North. We didnt go into Cambodia (with conventional forces). The whole thing was a waste of time. The North Viet. didnt play with the same rules so they won. You cannot win a war playing defense.

-Crazy

Realist

TTboy,

i think you make one mistake in your assumptions...which is hussein is a total nutcase. he is not. he is actually pretty clever.

hence he would never attack the US or israel because this would lead to his certain destruction.

truthseeker1,

i heared many stories but that one is new to me. what would have been the point in dissecting them while still alive? was this story based on video material, written documents or testimonies (and if this is the case who was the witness?)

i think one has to be very careful about believing such stories...too many of them turned out to be made up.

truthseeker1

TTBoy

Realist you are correct. Saddam would never attack the US or Isreal because he knows we'd have global support to annialiate his country. What you fail to realize is that he will attack both secretly, leaving no paper trail to convict him or his country.

Hitler screamed, "Here I am! - LOOK I'm killing people, what are you going to do about it?" Saddam will not, and he will play on the non-action of the UN and other apathetic countries who demand specific and conclusive proof that he is a threat. The "proof" demanded by sceptics is like the JWs reasoning. They will not listen to anything short of some child molester raping a child right in front of their face. And then only if it's confirmed by 2 Witnesses.

Is that the proof you need?

TT

truthseeker1

Realist,

Sorry, its not posting the document. Here is the link http://www.remember.org/educate/medexp.html

There are tons of articles on this stuff. Go to google do JEWS TWINS EXPERIMENTS GERMANY

According to this article, the twins were killed with an injection. Either way, sick shit.

-Crazy

The long awaited Dossier on Iraq UK Position

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