Sisters going after minor brothers

by nowaytess 57 Replies latest jw friends

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    For a fact, they had sex? Were the persons disfellowshipped? Or is it just a rumor?

    In my experience, I had a good friend date and then marry an Older women. I was his age too, and I did not understand it. However, they have now been married for over twenty years and have a very strong relationship. In fact, before I DAed myself, I called and apologized to them for withdrawing my friendship all those years ago.

    Looking at other cultures, is seems that a lot of different viewpoints exist regarding what is the proper age to start a relationship.

    One hundred years ago, when persons were expected to only live till their 30's and early forties, many families were started at this age and younger!

    "Heres to you, Mrs.. Robinson"

    Edited by - thichi on 30 September 2002 11:25:34

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Remember too, the ratio of Women to men in the US.........Women have much more competition to start a family then men do.

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    My former pioneer partner (age 40 at the time) married a 20 year old, who had been visiting her, for advice for months. He was the son of one of our other friends, and only 4 years older than her daughter. They have been married for 7 years. He looks good, although he has gained a great deal of weight. She is looking old. No children. He says he doesn't want any, but 10 years from now, I suspect he may be changing his mind.

    I just don't get it.

    In our area, there is the infamous Mary Kay Letorneau and Vili Falauu story. He was 12 and she was 34. She had two babies by him, but is now in prison. His life is ruined, and so was her family's life..........husband and four other kids.

  • LovesDubs
    LovesDubs

    Im thinking that a lot of these women might have husbands who are so engrossed in WT COMPANY stuff that they are no company to their wives, left home alone a lot. And there is a huge shortage of men in the Borg anyway. I had a friend who was grooming to be a pioneer, her husband an elder...I have said this story before...and she had a teenaged son. She decided to have a midlife crisis or something and started to have a relationship with an 18 year old who was staying at their home. All of us who pioneered that summer knew what was happening tho she denied it violently and vehemently. As did he. After they both went to pioneer school in August, they got their walking papers as pioneers, walked to the nearest motel and got BUSTED. Both were DFd. She eventually deserted her husband and son, divorced, and ran off with this kid who was only a couple years older than her own. They were reinstated...I never forgave them for it all, because they manipulated the system to get what they wanted and all it cost them was a year of eating humble pie. Her son went bonkers...got DFd and now SHE shuns HIM. Makes me puke.

    I for my part tho, married a guy 10 years my junior...and have been married 15 years now. He was, however 23 when I met him :) The irony of that was that my nonJW family was horrified by this and kept accusing me of marrying him "only for the sex"...which is the one thing we DIDNT have before marriage that my other two failed marriages DID. My father, who was the most vociferous about this union, was married to a woman 9 1/2 years HIS junior which somehow is OK. Well shit dad...I KNOW you married HER for the sex LOL! How quickly they forget <eg>

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    I'm personally aware of a situation in Illinois where the 42 year old pioneer single mom married the 18 year old within two months of his 18th Birthday, they had a kid nine months later. What the heck could they have in common besides the obvious? When he's 38 and she's 62 what will they have in common?

  • zev
    zev

    interesting subject nowaytess.

    but before i indulge myself and reveal information that may or may not be pertinant to this topic,

    at what age do you draw the line?

    does for instance a 21 year old apply in your topic?

    i know y'all were talking 16-18maybe, but i just wonder where the line is drawn.

    then maybe i can comment.

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    Yeru, that was my arguing point, when I talked to this gal about her romance. By the way, they had to get married at her house, and until an hour before the wedding, none of the family were coming, but they did finally. I don't think there were guests other than the family. No one would marry them, (used a judge I think) and they couldn't use the KH. No sex before they were married, so it was just the scandal of the age difference. She is a pioneer again.

    I keep thinking when he is 40 and a virile young man, still, and she is 60 (not aging well now at 47) what will they have in common. She was my pioneer partner so we talked a lot. She had been a dub for about 6 years, and was divorced for many years, and when we talked about sex one time, she said she had never had sex that was so good she wanted to do it again. I remembered that when she was engaged to this young man that had never had sex. Maybe he changed her mind.

    10 years is not a big deal. I know many of those, that are fine. For some reason, the woman being much younger than the man is not the same as the reverse. I don't know why. 20 years is too much. A different generation. My friend, whose son married the gal, above, said this "I never thought I would be reminiscing about the 60's with my daughter in law.

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    what if a 20 year old dated a 16 year old? Is that a big deal? Not really. Legally, it looks bad, but in real life? I don't think so.

    People can use sex for power, but a lot of the time, it's just an enjoyable act between two consenting persons. And, if a 16 YO decides to have sex, then that is their wish. If a 16 YO can be held accountable for murder as an adult, and other crimes, then they certainly can have sex as adults.

    Hypothetically: Let's say I was 15 or 16, and I had sex with a 24 year old, this would not have stunted me at all. Why? Because it would have been act of consent. Mature or not, the organs are there, and kids in high school have sex with each other all of the time. Like I said before, it's just an act to a kid, if they are mature enough.

    Are there real dummies in high school that shouldn't be having sex? Sure. Then again, some people shouldn't ever have sex.

    I think the age point is moot. It's about maturity only if a relationship is involved, otherwise, it's just an exchange of body fluids. This is not my personal point of view, but just what I've observed growing up.

    If a 15 yo has sex with his 15 yo girlfriend (consenting) is this any better or worse if he has sex with someone ten years his senior? Does it really make that much of a difference?

    ash

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  • Mulan
    Mulan

    Yes, it makes a difference. One is a child.............mature sex organs does NOT make you an adult.........and the other is an adult with responsibility to the rest of their community, including the parents of that 15 year old.

    As a mother, knowing what I know now, I would definitely take them to court for statuatory rape. Either sex, if the person was 25 and my child was 15. You bet!!

  • Monster
    Monster
    There is a difference betweem two older adults having a relationship where the person have the time and maturity. I find it more disugsting when the boy is just a teen havig his first sexaul experice with a woman who may be old enough to be his mother.

    What about men who are old enough to be the father, and grandfather.? Is that okay? I see it everyday,it's all around us. I don't know maybe you being a jw made you numb to some real facts of life on the outside, but, I wasn't caring how old the women were.If she was pretty and sexy I felt I wanted to do it, hell i did it, (at the age of 15yrs). Sometimes the women were 25 sometimes they were younger, ( I also slept with girls my own age) I can tell you the sex felt much better coming from an older women than it did from a girl my own age. Get real this ain't no "leave it to beaver" world. It's been going on for centuries. Only now can younger boys, men or whatever admit they have been having sex with older women. Not forced, willifully

    If you know of older women who are "forcing" little kids in to having sex call the police it's rape. I can't speak for other boys my age (during those times) but, I can say when I had sex with older women it was because I wanted it, and if my parents had called the cops I would have denied it to the bone.

    There's a saying that a girls become women at 18, while boys become men at 21 . Supposedly girls mature faster than boys. I think it depends on how mature you are in the mind. It has nothing to do with age. I don't believe little 15yr girls look at old men and say " WOW look at those wrinkles in his face, look at how his skin has drop on his body, look at how red his eyes are, i wonder what he looks like without his clothes on? I want to marry him so he can steal all my youth away, I want to get knocked up and be stuck in a marriage with a nasty old man" They go with them because they think they are mature enough to deal with it. Same with boys. They look at all kinds of sexy pictures of Grown women, they not looking at little 12yrs girls. I know I wasn't. We wanted beautiful, sexy, slim, pretty face women in our teen years. I am more mature now only because I am not paying so much attention now to the outside it has nothing to do with my age, and the sex is still good to me from older women.

    This thread kind of reminds me of the double standard treatment I saw women go through in the middle East. Men were allowed to go around and have sex with women or at times very young girls, some being raped. (if they were raped the VICTIM was put to death for the sake of family honor) On the other hand women who slept with men or young boys were put to death for being "whores".

    Why is it that women want men to be more liberal minded until it comes to sex, and justice.?

    Peace James.

    About the only thing he did for the child was to pay child support, didn't care about having a relationship with her. Sadie5

    I can believe that Sadie, many old men only want the young girls because they are young they are thinking of the sex they can get from them. They figure they can control and mold younger girls. There's a man that lives two doors down from me, he's 50yrs out driving around trying to talk young females in his car. Everytime he brings one around the first and ususally on thing he talks about with them is sex. With so many old men marrying young girls it's no wonder that older women are looking for younger men.

    Younger girls are in more danger being with older men than older women are with younger boys. I haven't yet heard of young men being killed because he left his older wife , (not saying it doesn't happen) but I have heard of old men killing young women because they can't accept the younger wife want to move on to men their own age (some times they are not even married to them).

    Peace James

    Edited by - Monster on 30 September 2002 13:22:55

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