Sisters going after minor brothers (page 4)

Monster

If a 16 YO can be held accountable for murder as an adult, and other crimes, then they certainly can have sex as adults. ashitaka

Hey Ashitaka, that's an excellent point. If a 17yr can die for his country why he can't he make love to an older women?

Are there real dummies in high school that shouldn't be having sex? Sure. Then again, some people shouldn't ever have sex.

Another good point.

If a 15 yo has sex with his 15 yo girlfriend (consenting) is this any better or worse if he has sex with someone ten years his senior? Does it really make that much of a difference?

No it didn't make much of a difference when I did it. Of course I enjoyed it more when I was with older women. I still do. :) Why because one is more experience in sex than the other but they ( women 25 or girls 15) are still having sex. SEX IS SEX.

Peace James.

Jesus Christ

I knew a guy in high school who was around 16 or 17 and was dating a woman in her late 20's/early 30's and his mom nailed her for statutory rape and even got a restraining order against her. Did it adversly effect him? I don't think so. After they broke up he started going out with a girl who was a grade lower than us and they were together for years. None of them were JW's though.

As for myself, 21 year old JW girl and 23 year old JW girl with 16 year old JW boy, doing naughty things together, no problem what so ever. Never told any of the elders or anything like that but bragged like crazy to various friends. I doubt they really cared about emotional issues or anything like that but then again, its not exactly like I was into their minds or anything. Did it harm me in any way? Nope. If I went back and had the chance to walk away instead there's no way I would, too many good memories!!!!

Now as for non-JW age differences, one of my friend's (as in female friend who I messed around with some) mom came onto me, heavily, once when she was drunk when I just turned 15. I didn't do it because I thought it was kind of creeepy but I'm not traumatized or anything. Also, when I was 15 I went out with an 18 year old who introduced me into many different things and I'm not hurt by it at all. In fact, I'm thankful. Every girlfriend I've had since her has bennifitted from what she taught me. True, at times I was slightly confused but when you're learning stuff, especially something so enjoyable, you usually don't pick it up right away and get slightly confused with it. Once again, I'd gladly do it all over again. On the flip side, when I was 17/18 I went out with a 14/15 year old girl and did quite a bit of naughty stuff with her. I don't really think it effected her negatively and I sure as hell didn't have any negative side effects from it.

Personally, I think more damage can occur just with an emotional relationship instead of a physical one. The two times when I was really messed up from a relationship and very negatively effected was with two girls I never slept with (well, I messed around with one of them but it was long after I had gotten over her and we both knew it was just physical which was just fine). One of them I kissed once and I was a wreck for months when we split because of the emotional attachment was there. The other girl, we came pretty close but never did (not because I didn't want to though) and when we split I was messed up for a year or two. If you really want to stop damage try to keep your boys from getting in tangled emotional relationships until they can handle it. I know personaly those were the ones that caused far more damage than the physical ones.

Sentinel

Granted, you do have the potential for this problem to occur. You have the older WDub lady, who has been faithful for years to her overbearing, abusive husband, who probably holds a high position in the congregation. She is lonely, depressed, taken for granted. She craves attention, and yes, I can see this happening. I do personally know of one case, so I can attest to that. The boy was way under eighteen, and the woman was older. This is wrong as well, and should be handled the same way as when a man abuses children.

People of all ages are going to engage in this sexual exploration thing. Some of it is just that, and more on the innocent side among kids of the same age group. But, we know what is appropriate and what is not among adults, male and female.

The thing with JW's is that even the "exploration" of sex is considered unclean and dirty, so that lots of issues are repressed and come out inappropriately on down the road.

This is a big issue, with lots of avenues.

Sentinel/Karen

amac

This seems a little ridiculous. Morally it may be wrong, but then again it can be argued that sex before marriage is equally morally wrong. The only difference is one is illegal by Federal law. Consensual sex between a teenager and an adult is completely different than child molestation. A teenager is capable of reciprocating flirtatious actions, and in some cases may initiate it. I don't think a 16 year old boy having sex with an older woman is anywhere close to being comparable to an adult molesting a child. I don't think it is right, but I certainly don't think it is as criminal.

DakotaRed

What irritates me about this and the point I tried to make last night, is that if a, say 15 year old boy is sleeping with a 45 year old women, he is declared a hero, Joe Studdly, macho dude. She is doing him a service by training him and teaching him. Yet, reverse it and discover a 15 year old girl sleeping with a 45 year old man, then she is a sweet innocent youth who has been deflowered by a dirty leacherous old man. Both cases would be consensual.

Why the double standard?

Why does a 15 year old need trained in matters of sex anyway? Would a younger girl not as experienced sexually as an older woman satisfy him, or would he need to pass along the training he received, expecting a younger girl to know the same things? I, for one, think that life was meant for youths to discover and explore and grow together as a couple, over the man receiving training from an older woman.

It is this type attitude that protects the female pedophiles amongst us and perpetuates the myth that males cannot be molested.

Lew W

nowaytess

I can see I started a firestorm here.

Zev for purposes of this discussion they male had to have been pursued when he was a minor (under 18) Over 18 the law considers him a legal adult. My focus is child abuse not consenting adults who get involved in a realtionship.

Dakatoa Red I agree with you. It is thumbs up for a man who has an older woman who teaches him, but a younger female is being taken advantage of. That is why a female pedophile can hide her activity if her vicitim is in puberty. Just look at the media and how it seem ok for a teenage boy to have sex with an older woman who seduces him. Why can't anyone see she is a perpitratior who just know her vicitm will just think he was so willing because he is just expericeing stong sexaul feeling for the first time.

I don't think we die for our country unelss we are 18. If you are 18 or over then it is considered consenting.

Sadly as long as society see it this actiivity to be applauded not to be ashamed of the results will still be the same.

Claiming to be a christian organization and permitting this is just plain sick.

LB

My JW buddy was recovering from drug addiction when he became a JW. He was 22. He married a woman that's 21 years old than him. She picked a ripe one I guess. Now he's 50 and miserable. He has an old wife. That promise of the system ending in 75 and her becoming young again just didn't happen. But she got her meal ticket.

I give him credit for hanging around. She's actually quite a needy bitch and always has been. But just imagine the gossip at that kingdom hall when she was stalking him.

Beck_Melbourne

Interesting subject...its the kind of topic where you raise your eyebrows but you don't say anything out loud.

I knew a jw woman in her 40's who married a guy who was 19 or 20. They seemed quite happy...she grew increasingly impatient...waiting on Jehoovah and all that jazz just wasn't happening for her....and so she settled for a much younger brother who wasn't the full quid if you know what I mean. Kind of like Colleen McCullough's character Tim.

What used to annoy me was how the older brothers, who were either widowed or what have you, would prey upon the much younger sisters for potential mates...they rarely looked at women their own age...because they knew that there were so many available sisters they could pick and choose...used to make me sick. Sadly, most sisters settled...with the attitude 'at least he's a spiritual man' BAH!!

Beck

animal

Many men under 18 died in Viet Nam.....

As for my story, I wasnt pursued. I went after the prize, not her. She just let me have it.

Again, I think you already have your mind set so this thread wont go much farther.

Animal

DakotaRed

Sorry, Animal, you could only join the Army during Vietnam at 17 if you had parents permission. To be sent to Vietnam, you had to be 18 or over. Many died, but their ages were spread out.

As for your story, that is yours. I wasn't discrediting, but mentioning about society in general. Mostly, I was addressing the double standard society imposes upon these situations.

Lew W

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