Sisters going after minor brothers

by nowaytess 57 Replies latest jw friends

  • Swan
    Swan

    Dear Six,

    You wrote:

    Tammy, I don't know the story or reasoning behind it, but at the turn of the century, I believe it was quite common to put little boys in dresses for photographs. This might have been a throwback to that.

    Could be, except she also used earrings, hats, lipstick, and nail polish too!

    Tammy

  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    Swan,

    I am a vegan vegitarian. I try not to eat eggs or dairy unless it is in a food which those prodicts have been processed. I try to east raw unrefined whole wheat foods with in reason. If I am out in mixed company I not neuorotic about my food, I won' t eat any flesh products which include chicken and fish.

    I know a lot of people today who are afraid of those things which you describe.

    Did you mom give you coffee enema's or enemas to clean you colon? It is now becoming more popular than ever.

    I know of a Elders' Wife who is into macrobiotcs. health movement. she had a lot fo heath problems it help her. In fact her greater health inspired me. Years later when Iwas very sick, I tried a different concept and got off disablity. I did not call doctors quacks, but when the failed and wrote me off I tried another avanue.

    Elders' wife told me she gave her two children (boy and girl) enemas until they were in their teens. I found this very creepy. I don' t see how this would affect a child neverless a teenager. sheclaims Native American clean their childrens colons with enemas. For me, for my mom to stick an enema up my ass I would have knock her out.

    Maybe that is why the expression on their faces look like something was jammed inside?

    I know the daughter tried to run away when she was 15 and he rbrother served at Bethel until he got married. The family was so close the psycologist call teh term "emeshed." When the daughter married a brother who lived far away in a big city( they lived in Colebrook, NH) the father offered him as a partner in his printing business. I found this very controllong and I know her father was a very controlling man.

    How controlling was he? He moved to where the need was great and most of the elder body ws indebted to them for bringing them in the "Truth." Plus, when I told other how i felt he gave a marking talk on me. Plus he would tell me in fron to of other hewould never invite me to his house or out in a get together. His wife and kids are good people but Daddy was Daddy dearest indeed.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    I don' t see how this would affect a child neverless a teenager.

    HUH?

    The family was so close the psycologist call teh term "emeshed

    You spoke to your psychologist about these people?

    I found this very controllong and I know her father was a very controlling man.

    Being rather judgmental, aren't you?

    Plus, when I told other how i felt he gave a marking talk on me. Plus he would tell me in fron to of other hewould never invite me to his house or out in a get together.

    I can't say as I blame him. I wouldn't want you in my business either. I would go to great extremes to avoid your company.

  • Swan
    Swan

    Dear Tess,

    I can see your point of view, but I don't share it. To reject proven medical therapies in favor of putting honey in your child's eyes, which hasn't been proven in any study, is quackery, IMO. To not inoculate your child against serious diseases because it may cause them to adopt loose morals is ludicrous. To avoid aluminum because it is the Devil's metal is superstitious mumbo jumbo.

    If they ever come out with any such studies or research, I would accept it, but I still wouldn't do it because there are many less painful remedies available. I am sure there are alternative therapies that have some merit, but when administered, by a dysfunctional parent to a child, along with the countless other quack medicines, it is really difficult to differentiate what is a good remedy and what is just BS!

    I actually believe the Chinese herbs were doing some good for me healthwise (but nothing for my depression). They tasted like sewer water, but I think they were really good for me. I have no scientific study to back this up, so don't anybody run out to Chinatown just on my say so. It's totally anecdotal and individual to me. It may not work for you. That's the point. My mother would listen to brother so and so because he was 83 and still pioneering and he drank this potion every day. So guess what? We had to drink that crap every day too. So unfortunately, even though the herbs were working for me, it wasn't long before my mother switched to some other fad remedy and that was that.

    So what I am saying here is some of it is valid and some of it is quackery. Either way, it can become abusive, even if some people get relief from this or that therapy. And after a whole childhood of it, I'm sick of all of it.

    If those remedies work for you, great! Just don't let them rule your life and the life of your kids. Keep it in perspective and balanced.

    Thanks and good health to you!

    Tammy

  • footprints
    footprints

    Sad Sad Sad......

    A few years back here a 30 something women cornered and married a boy just after he graduated for highschool...

    In the early 70's I know of a 30+ somthing man marrying about a 12 year old girl in Portland Oregon. I think they had to get the permission of the governor...

    What I really wanted to know was "WHERE WERE THESE KIDS'S PARENTS"

    Yes all four were Jehovah's Witnesses.

  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    I agree with you on the point we should see a doctor. I trust them.

    I turned to alternative therpies when all else failed. I was very fortunate my primary doctor did not pooh pooh it. In fact he montored me and I did listen to him.

    The doctors Thought I had mutiple scrosis at one point in time. I was loosing strenght on the left side of my body.

    My freind started telling me teh dangers of Nutra Sweet. I laugh at her at first. ThenI prayed about it. I used nutra sweet in a lot fo things especailly the iced tea I would make.

    I stopped and the symptoms went away ASAP. I swtiched to my current diet and got better. My doctor told me to keep up with what I was going because it is working. I went to the Massachuutes General Hospital because my problems were very servere.

    Your mom sounds she has a lot of problems. Most people who are into alternatives also have good primary doctrors whom we listen to.

  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    <P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff666"> ;I don' t see how this would affect a child neverless a teenager</FONT>. <P>HUH? <P>YOu did not get the point, how would it affect a teen who is old enough to understand what is happening. ; A child would be more terrified. ; <P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff666">The family was so close the psycologist call teh term "emeshed</FONT> <P>You spoke to your psychologist about these people? <P>Nope, but used to work in the Mental Health Field. <P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff666">I found this very controllong and I know her father was a very controlling man.</FONT> <P>Being rather judgmental, aren't you? <P>Nope, Just know him. ; He very controlling, do you know him? <P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff666">Plus, when I told other how i felt he gave a marking talk on me. Plus he would tell me in fron to of other hewould never invite me to his house or out in a get together. ;</FONT> <P>I can't say as I blame him. I wouldn't want you in my business either. I would go to great extremes to avoid your company. <P>BTW, his wife volenteer that information. ; I was stunned when she told me that. I would never have known it unless she told me. <P>The Elder was just plain old controlling. ; Anyone who did not fit into this very dysfunctional congregation got marked. ; <P> ;</P>
  • Robdar
    Robdar

    YOu did not get the point, how would it affect a teen who is old enough to understand what is happening

    I did not get the point because your sentence structure is so bad.

    Nope, but used to work in the Mental Health Field.

    And that makes you a psychologist, right?

    Just know him. He very controlling, do you know him?

    No, I can't say that I know him. But after listening to you gossip about him and possibly slander him, I wish I did.

    his wife volenteer that information. I was stunned when she told me that. I would never have known it unless she told me

    Hmm, maybe she wanted you to get out of their business too? Ya think maybe?

    The Elder was just plain old controlling. Anyone who did not fit into this very dysfunctional congregation got marked

    And so it is okay for you to mark him because he doesn't fit into your way of thinking?

    Edited by - robdar on 3 October 2002 4:19:37

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