What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse

by Starlight.vee 52 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  Sea Breeze

  Duran,

  Until you give up your heretical pagan worship of angels, you are stuck.

  In response to John’s wrongful attempt to worship an angel in Revelation, the angel says, “See that you do not do that! . . . Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy” (Revelation 19:10, NKJV). It is critical to understand that this statement is a response to John’s intention to worship the angel. Because of the construction of the clause in the original language (Greek), there are three common understandings of "the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy":
  
  1. Jesus is the substance of all prophecy, or, put another way, Jesus is the common theme among all prophecy.
  2. All true prophecy bears witness about Jesus. Therefore, all prophecy should cause us to worship Him alone.
  3. The message or testimony given by Jesus is the essence of true prophecy. Jesus is the Word, and no prophecy comes to us except through Him, ultimately pointing to God as the source of all true prophecy.

  I put this little chart together that illustrates the CLEAR Christian teaching that Jesus is both fully God and fully Man.
  
  
  
  
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  Duran

  Until you give up your heretical pagan worship of angels, you are stuck. In response to John’s wrongful attempt to worship an angel in Revelation, the angel says, “See that you do not do that!

  The angel told John not to worship him because that angel was not God, he was a minister of God which all angels are. And not only is Jehovah God a spirit but all angels are spirits, and all angels are God's sons', including Satan.

  [min·is·ter - a person or thing used to achieve or convey something; attend to the needs of (someone):]

  [8 Well I, John, was the one hearing and seeing these things. When I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing me these things. 9 But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers the prophets and of those observing the words of this scroll. Worship God.”]

  [24 God is a Spirit, ]
  

  [ 4 He makes his angels spirits, His ministers a consuming fire.]

  [14 Are they not all spirits for holy service, sent out to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation?]

  [ 11 Then the Devil left him, and look! angels came and began to minister to him.]

  [ 12 because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.]
  

  [ 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?]
  

  [2 Afterward the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them to take his station before Jehovah.]
  

  [ 2 the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose.]
  

  [ 18 For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit. 19 And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who had formerly been disobedient when God was patiently waiting in Noah’s day, while the ark was being constructed]
  
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  Sea Breeze

  The angel told John not to worship him because that angel was not God, he was a minister of God which all angels are. And not only is Jehovah God a spirit but all angels are spirits, and all angels are God's sons', including Satan.

  I'm glad we cleared that up.

  Do not let anyone cheat you of your reward by delighting in false humility and the worship of angels, dwelling on those things which he has not seen, vainly arrogant due to his unspiritual mind. - Col. 2:18 MEV

  Now can you expalin to me from the bible how you are saved? Do you still personally reject the New Covcenant "for the forgiveness of sins" in Mt. 26: 27-28 ?