by safe4kids 67 Replies latest watchtower medical
Hey (((((Latte)))))
Good to see ya! (er, *read* ya) Yeah, reading helps immensely and this book was really an eye-opener, not that I subscribe to everything in it, but there was certainly a lot of food for thought. BTW...I personally think that Succulent Wild Women by Sark should be part of EVERY woman's library
I'll tell the kids you send your love, they'll be very pleased. Please give ours to your family as well.
Dana
Dana,
Thanks for posting the title to that book. I checked it out the day after I first read your post and now I'm to the part about “Engaging the Flow”. I can't put my finger on my "control drama" but I think I may be a "poor me"...LOL. I’m having a hard time following my pattern from childhood until now and what effect my parents have on all that. I wasn’t very close to either one on my parents growing up, although I maintain a wonderful relationship with my mother now…that didn’t occur until adulthood. During childhood, neither parent was ever really involved in my life…so there wasn’t much interaction to base anything on. The only thing I can see that I might do now, is attempt to gain attention from others through sympathy. My life still sucks just as much as it did when I was a kid…and it does appear to be a pattern with me, that I continually put myself into difficult, and sometimes impossible situations and relationships and then seek out comfort from others by sharing with them my story(ies).
The book aside, I have always wanted to understand why I do this to myself (put myself in terrible relationships and situations). As far as “control dramas” go…I really don’t think I try to control anyone. I can see now, that if this is truly part of a method or process or progress of/to spiritual enlightenment, I will have a hard time getting past this "insight"...LOL. At any rate, t he book is a very interesting read. I especially found myself relating on an individual basis to the events of history. When I was reading how people had put faith in the clergymen then lost it…and along with that faith went their answers to the questions of purpose (the longer now)...yada, yada, and to preoccupy their minds they focused on other things to fill the void...I was like "wow. that is sooo where I am right now".
As far as identifying with your surroundings (the mystical experience)...I have always been on a very spiritual level with nature and always felt a very strong connection with the universe (like in the book where he describes the universe as his body, as if it absorbed him completely).
I've been reading a lot more fiction lately, mostly Anne Rice (the non-fiction was frying my brain). I read an awesome book titled the Secret Life of Bees by Sue Monk Kidd not too long ago. That was the BEST book I have read in a verrryyy long time. I highly recommend it. I recently read the Power of Myth (non-fiction), which was also a terrific book.
Good luck and take care….
Valis,
Thanks for posting that info about the Popol Vuh…sounds interesting. I’ll start on that as soon as I finish this book.
Sadie
The thought of being "connected" is the foundation of my present spirituality. Philosophically, socially, scientifically and spiritually the realization that all, that is EVERYTHING, is part of a universal whole is the beginning of understanding
Steve,
I couldn't have said it better myself. The discussions we had a few weeks ago are still ringing in my mind. Hey, could you email me the info for the discussion group on Sunday nights? I thought you gave the info to me before I left, but I have yet to find it.
Dana,
I just reached the 8th insight. I feel as if I have been hit with a big fish (inside joke between Ross and me...will tell it to you later). I am so glad that you brought this book back to my awareness. It had been so many years since I read it, I had forgotten most of it. I am glad that I paid attention to the coincidences....
Love to you, my friends.
Robyn
Sadie ,
Thank you so much for your post! I could sooooo relate to some of the things that you wrote. I'm finding it a challenge to integrate all of the insights, too. You said:
The only thing I can see that I might do now, is attempt to gain attention from others through sympathy. My life still sucks just as much as it did when I was a kid…and it does appear to be a pattern with me, that I continually put myself into difficult, and sometimes impossible situations and relationships and then seek out comfort from others by sharing with them my story(ies
Wow, that's a lot of work already that you are able to be that self-aware and self-knowing. Please remember though that it's easy to be much harder on ourselves than is sometimes warranted...there's nothing wrong with garnering support from trusted friends and having our feelings and experiences validated by others' reactions. I think the hard thing about all of that is finding the balance (gawd, I hate the word balance! Coz it's so difficult to find) between our very real and natural need for validation/support and the 'poor me' syndrome. I spent years locked into that behavior (control drama) and then years battling it and putting it behind me. I find tho that I can revisit it, so I have to also be very aware of my motivations. As two wise friends of mine have recently told me, try to take baby steps I'd love to hear more about your progress thru the insights and how you interpret them.
((((((Robyn)))))
I have to tell you....I read your post yesterday afternoon and felt a strong urge to reread the 8th insight...and darnit all if I wasn't gobsmacked! (again LOL). Talk about coincidences..*sigh*. Thanks for that post, I needed to review that insight and quite honestly it may be the one that will be hardest for me to develop on a personal level. Btw...I REALLY REALLY need to watch the Monty Python videos again!!!
Love,
Dana
Dana
I agree, the 8th is gonna be hard. Heh, Dad (God) is having such a good time whacking me with that fish!
I am now reading "Celestine Vision", also a very good book. I highly recommend it.
Monty Python Rawks!!! I see that you are familiar with the video I am speaking of. The next time we all get together, we should have a Python marathon. And lets be sure to invite Xena, Tyydyy, Comf and Jim_TX as our guest Texas apostates cause those guys/gal are a hoot. It could be so much fun!
Love,
Robyn
Hiya Dana,
Thanks for taking the time to respond to me. I just finished the book. WOW...what a cool ending, what with that happening with Wil and all. I didn't put too much faith in the words of the book, because it is fiction...but since I've started reading it, I have tried some of the insights and I do feel more in touch with things, you know? Like yesterday, I saw a friend in passing that I have been meaning to call for sometime. I felt all morning like I should call her, but I had a ton of housework to do...so, I put it out of my mind. The feeling nagged at me all day, and then last night she called. Weird, huh? I wasn't home, so I don't know why she called but I'll be returning her call in a little bit. It'll be interesting to see what she has to say. Have you guys been applying the insights? How seriously do you take this book? What does Redfield base these insights on?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm just a little awestruck by the book. It sort of leaves you with a strong feeling of expectation. I'm just curious to see if I am the only one who feels this way? What is the 8th insight. I haven't numbered them, I just know them by name. Do you guys really think that mankind as a whole could ever achieve that level of spiritually? I just can't envision that. I think of those who are so complacent...and there are many. Even if they felt such a thing is achievable, life the way it is is simply too comfortable for some to ever let it go, you know?
I'd like to go on to the next book, but the library in this little town only has the Celestine Prophecy (and I'm surprised that they even had that one). I'll probably just order them from Amazon. They have some there that are used and are really inexpensive.
Keep us informed about your progression. My email is open, so feel free to email me anytime.
Take care!!
Sadie
Useful link: http://www.skepdic.com/celest.html
Hey Derek
How ya been? That was an interesting link, thanks. I think the thing to keep in mind is that this book is a work of fiction; also, I've not discarded my skeptic's cap quite yet However, many of the thoughts and ways of relating made sense to me, and one thing that I personally am endeavoring to do is not close my mind to possibilities that might exist, simply because modern science doesn't currently support them. Not all things are measurable scientifically at this time; I don't think that is reason to completely discard them. What do you think?
Dana
Hi FunkyD,
I checked out that site about a week ago. It's interesting. But, may I ask, why don't you read the book for yourself instead of relying on what the skeptics have to say? The book, although a work of fiction, makes its own interesting points and provides a different way of looking at reality. Of course, those who are happy with this reality should avoid the book. But, do you know anybody who honestly thinks that life as we know it is fine and dandy?
Love,
Robyn
Uh oh..I feel an invisible pink unicorn coming on......
Expatbrit
